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General Politics => Individual Politics => Topic started by: YRABNNRM on June 10, 2009, 05:31:47 PM



Title: Opinion of Frank Gaffney
Post by: YRABNNRM on June 10, 2009, 05:31:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gaffney

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After his five months in office, and most especially after his just-concluded visit to Saudi Arabia and Egypt, however, a stunning conclusion seems increasingly plausible: The man now happy to have his Islamic-rooted middle name featured prominently has engaged in the most consequential bait-and-switch since Adolf Hitler duped Neville Chamberlain over Czechoslovakia at Munich.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/09/americas-first-muslim-president/


Title: Re: Opinion of Frank Gaffney
Post by: YRABNNRM on June 10, 2009, 11:26:42 PM
I guess opinion polls have to be FF or HP to generate discussion?


Title: Re: Opinion of Frank Gaffney
Post by: © tweed on June 11, 2009, 12:07:54 AM
no, it just has to be somebody that people already know about because in almost all cases they aren't going to bother to read anything more than a sentence or two.


Title: Re: Opinion of Frank Gaffney
Post by: Magic 8-Ball on June 11, 2009, 12:52:32 AM
Very negative.

I guess opinion polls have to be FF or HP to generate discussion?

There's not really much to discuss.  If you click the link to the article and read the whole thing, the guy essentially engages in the tired  "Obama's a secret Muslim/terrorist sympathizer! OMG!"  argument.

But, for the hell of it, here are some bullet points:

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Mr. Obama referred four times in his speech to "the Holy Koran." Non-Muslims -- even pandering ones -- generally don't use that Islamic formulation.

No other American president has given a speech directed to a certain religion either.  When you're trying to convince a billion people that the country you lead isn't at war with their faith, it might be a good idea to be more respectful than usual.  Also, he used "Talmud" several times...does that mean he's also Jewish?


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Mr. Obama established his firsthand knowledge of Islam (albeit without mentioning his reported upbringing in the faith) with the statement, "I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed." Again, "revealed" is a depiction Muslims use to reflect their conviction that the Koran is the word of God, as dictated to Muhammad.

Or it means that Obama's speechwriters do their homework.



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Then the president made a statement no believing Christian -- certainly not one versed, as he professes to be, in the ways of Islam -- would ever make. In the context of what he euphemistically called the "situation between Israelis, Palestinians and Arabs," Mr. Obama said he looked forward to the day ". . . when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them) joined in prayer."

Once again, check the audience.  The best way to win people over is to not piss them off.  Is the goal quoted from Obama's speech any different from his predecessors?



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Now, the term "peace be upon them" is invoked by Muslims as a way of blessing deceased holy men. According to Islam, that is what all three were - dead prophets.  Of course, for Christians, Jesus is the living and immortal Son of God.

Oh noes, Obama's a Muslim! >:(


The tone, in general, is a turn off for me, and I dislike all the spurious connections he makes between Obama and Islam.  Reading his Wikipedia article reveals that he likes to make strange connections (Saddam and the Oklahoma City Bombing, for example).


Title: Re: Opinion of Frank Gaffney
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on June 11, 2009, 03:04:30 AM
A deranged, far-right ideologue.

He should be locked up in a padded cell, instead of polluting the airwaves with his neocon/paranoid theories.