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Yes. I mean when management casually talks about it at my work I'd say so. Plus imagine pulling out pot at a party and anyone freaking out and being like "OMG, THAT'S MARIJUANA!"

It seems so.

     To no one's surprise, it was already socially acceptable where I live.

Yes, and it's high time other minor drugs are socially accepted as well - I'm thinking chiefly of opium, as well as other natural narcotics like psylocybin and salvia and peyote.

To anyone under 35-40 and is an (sub)urban dweller, yes. Still wouldn't want to talk about it to my fairly liberal but difficult parents and my grandparents even less.

Yeah, I'd say so.

Yes, among most of my friends, though it's not acceptable to me.  I would leave very quickly if someone started smoking it in front of me.

Why?

In Mississippi, you get the death penalty for smoking.

I suppose so, but it still makes me uncomfortable, as all drugs do.

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No.

Depends where thou bist.

Certainly not in my house ;D My dad was - probably - a pot smoking glam rocker in his youth, but if he tried that now....

Oh please, :P

I don't mind if people do all the drugs they want to, personal responsibility, individual freedom, all that jazz. I just have no personal interest. I've never even tasted alcohol, honestly.

I take that as an insult.

where i live sure. but is not something ppl brag about if they are smart considering the police at our school made us do a line up three times.

Sure, but I don't like it. I don't like being around smokers, period.

Since when is DC any remotely resembling conservative? Or considering much of my personal experience on this comes from there, North Dakota edgy and counter-culture?

A lot of the people I work with literally smoke it on their breaks, so yeah.

Our last three Presidents have smoked pot at some time in their lives, I'd say it's acceptable.

Sort of.

Kind of like The Gay -- still plenty of strong opposition, no longer a dealbreaker, but still not really completely accepted by most of society.  And our peer groups are probably a lot more accepting of it than the aggregate of mainstream American society.

Yopu're a turd, not an edgy counter-culturalist.

The demographics that are in favor of legalizing weed and legalizing gay marriage are pretty similar. The breakdown by age and religious affiliation should be strikingly similar to gay marriage. There are differences in other demographics such as men being more in favor of marijuana and women being more in favor of gay marriage. Education levels won't be as predictive of the vote as with gay marriage. Racially it looks like Latinos are most in favor of legalizing weed with whites being about average and blacks opposing it (based on an exit poll in NV which very well could be wrong). If this is the case it bodes well for any legalization initiatives in CA. I think the most crucial demographic to win for both sides will be unmarried women.

Among the young generation, probably.  For society as a whole, not yet.

Yes, but still frowned upon by people of actual intellect and decency

Gotten trashed recently?

I haven't gotten trashed in about a week.  I don't see the relevance, alcohol use is socially acceptable

Who cares if it's socially acceptable or not?

I don't drink and I've never done any drugs, but it seems rather obnoxious and hypocritical for you to imply that people who smoke pot are somehow inferior to you and/or indecent, while you're talking about drinking just to get hammered in another thread, and that's apparently perfectly decent and smart.

Alcohol /= pot

There is no way around it, one is accepted by the masses for thousands of years and one is a narcotic for idiots to use

You're ignoring what I'm saying, that's not the topic, the topic is your arrogance and your hypocrisy. You claim getting high is stupid and indecent, while you're also saying that getting 'trashed' is perfectly fine. Legality or any other issue like that doesn't matter.

How is getting high itself any more stupid or "indecent" than getting smashed? How can you claim some sort of moral superiority?

I already said it a hundred times, it doesn't bear repeating again

How old are you?

That's another question that you could ascertain the information by reading my profile

Yeah, in my area it is pretty socially acceptable to smoke pot.

Hashemites profile said he's over 100 years old, my YouTube profile says I'm 21/22. Profiles don't exactly tell the truth. :P

I asked because of this:


You not only insult pot smokers, claiming that getting high is dumb (while getting trashed is perfectly fine) but you insult them for engaging in an illegal activity.  Are you not breaking the law too? Your attacks on pot smokers are riddled with hypocrisy.

You claim drinking is socially acceptable while smoking pot is apparently not, which isn't true.

You say pot smoking is stupid, while apparently getting smashed is perfectly fine. (Hell, what bad could happen?)

You attack pot smoking as "being a degenerate activity that is not legal" while engaging in an illegal activity yourself.

It's one thing to have a personal distaste for marijuana, but stop acting like you're morally superior, because you're most definitely not.

Yeah, at wrist-slitting camp they do it a lot I heard

Pot is immoral, drinking is not.  The Bible agrees with me so honestly whether you don't agree with me phases me little.  Jesus turned water into wine, not grass into hemp

What are you? 9 or have you finally turned 10 yet?

I thought you weren't a religious. ???

When I was nine, you were 6.  When I was 10, you were 7.

I'm not a religious fanatic, but I have a belief in God that guides moral outlook toward life.  You should it instead of slitting your wrists

Work on your trolling.


When it comes down to it most libertarian types are really just Conservatives acting cool.


Something tells me Jesus might frown on getting trashed every other weekend.

That is just stupid, I believe in the possibility of a God but it boggles my mind that people who profess little faith just turn to the Bible to assert their opinions when they choose to ignore it at other times. The Bible does say very specific things about alcohol that you seem to ignore yet it says nothing about marijuana that I see.

Who are you to say I have little faith?  I don't attend church often, but that occurs because I feel that my religious views conflict with the greedy nature of my local church.  What makes me less religious because I don't go to a big builiding every week?  The Lord said to keep holy the sabbath, and I pray every Sunday.

Yet you choose to not obey the Bible on lots of things while professing faith in it. Have you ever read the parts where it specifically talks about the immorality of being drunk and making a fool out of yourself while being drunk? I used to be a Christian so I specifically remember the Bible not saying anything about marijuana but many things on the immorality of people who drink alcohol in excess.

Anyways I swear I remember you saying you weren't a Christian but I guess if you say you believe in the Bible you do. What views do you have conflict with your church on anyways?

Do you pray for Jack Daniels or Captain Morgan?

Marokai, the only thing I pray for is that you get a job and stop living off the government in front of your computer screen

Seems like you'd have far more important things to get some divine assistance for.

I don't need divine assistance right now, I live my life so that major problems do not arise

The Bible says more about not drinking in excess than it does about not smoking pot, as it says nothing about the latter.

Ooh, I love this game!

Ephesians 5:18: Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

You haven't gotten trashed in..."About a week?"  And you're using that as proof that you're not a drunk?

As far as socially acceptable, like it or not you are under the legal drinking age.  No one may turn you in (I certainly wouldn't: let he who didn't drank underage cast the first stone) but that doesn't make what you do any less illegal than smoking a joint.

I have much more respect for someone who smokes a joint every now and then than someone who gets "trashed" every weekend like a frat boy idiot who the defends his actions with nonexistant bible verses.

Well, among my friends is totally acceptable, even is many do not smoke a pot

Unfortuately yes and it is to society's detriment that it has become so.

As opposed to the good old days when it was tobacco?

In the sense that people are mostly no longer ashamed/afraid to admit it, yes.

Yeah, remember at the 2004 Democratic presidential debate, when they were jumping over each other to admit that they'd smoked pot? Good times.

Uhh people have been using marijuana for more than 8,000 years now........

Your logic here is escaping me, down.

Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, and sow it everywhere! - George Washington

Because I don't want to smell like it or be seen around it.

As Al said it depends where you are or bist.

Ive done it probably a few dozen times- some fun and some uncomfortable. The alcohol v pot debate is rather silly, imo. I've abused alcohol in my life and have known other people who have been potheads.  Any drink or drug can get the better of you and especially if you have underlying issues which that substance helps subside/delay/not confront.  I don't see a moral high ground here.

Gin yes, fruity lexia no. Got it.

The Bible warns against drunkenness several times.

But it would hardly come as a surprise that you pick and choose which parts of the Bible are relevant.  Sort of like you do with the law.

You must not be aware of my disgust and hate tobacco and the industry that pedals it. As far as I am concerned you can shut all the Tobacco factories down and convert the farms that produce it to a more beneficial crop. I am also get sick of these died in the wool North Carolinians who wine about the decline of Tobacco to me.  I say thank god. Now those resources can be put to better use.

Actually.. my mother lives with severe chronic pain due to a myriad of medical problems and has been prescribed Ultram, Vicodin, and Tylox at various times... all to no effect, other than that they put her to sleep.. and the Ultram doesn't really do anything for her.

But if she smokes weed, the pain goes away.

To call her an idiot for that is ignorant and bullheaded at best.

And to think that 5 years ago I would've agreed with DWTL.  I guess watching your own mother sobbing in pain get relief changes a guy's mind.

And for the record:  I've never smoked weed in my life.