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101  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of this type of dancing on: October 03, 2017, 11:19:24 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDb55B9u5cw

Horrible Dancing. It's really annoying and takes up too much space, and makes it more inconvenient to mosh. I hate when kids do this.
102  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How would this forum react if Kamala Harris won the presidency? on: October 03, 2017, 08:17:57 pm
Every argument I've ever seen about Kamala Harris on this forum turns into just a massive clusterf**k about "identity politics" or some other bullsh!t, and doesn't even try to address her strength or traits as a candidate from either side. I've honestly never heard an actual argument in defense of her, just blind worship from posters who unironically call themselves things like "globalist" and "neoliberal" and say things like that George W. Bush was fundamentally a good guy but just misguided, and whose main method of responding to criticism of her is just to shout down the critic by calling them racist and/or sexist and accusing them of being a purist Bernie Bro.

The truth is her actual track record to me as a candidate is worse than Ted Cruz's. She barely won election in 2010 (and spare the "GOP wave year" talk, the Democratic candidates running at the top of the ballot in her state won easily), underperformed in 2014, and then beat a candidate of her own party who ran a terrible campaign. No sign of any special campaign skills or strengths. If she has no intention of being anything but a Senator from California, that's fine. But as a Presidential candidate, this is a horrible record. Does she have any special skills or strengths as a candidate that weren't displayed during those campaigns? If so, I'd argue the burden of proof on showing that is on her defenders.

And for that matter, what in her record makes her a candidate worthy of such attention? The thing she's most notable for in the Senate was grilling a CIA Director candidate about gay marriage. Now granted California Attorney General is very far from an unimportant or minor office, but I know of nothing she did during that that would lift her as a top pick for the Democrats for President.

So if Kamala Harris is elected President, that will not be due to anything of note from her campaign skills or strength, but simply because Trump continued to be as much as a disaster as he's been so far to the point where any random person off the street with a (D) next to their name can beat him. And if that happens, Harris' administration will likely end up being a disaster as well. It strikes me as pretty bizarre anyone thinks she is the best choice to move the Democratic Party forward out of truly many options. I don't even really care if the nominee is another "neoliberal"* as long as it's someone who can boost the party and actually do some things for people. I don't see any evidence that Harris is a candidate who can do that, much less the best option to do that.

*Using the definition of the word used here by both her defenders and as the generic epithet it is against any Democrat leftists don't like. An actual neoliberal as the Democratic nominee who be as horrifying as the thought of Donald Trump as President. Luckily that has about as much chance of happening as I do of being the Democratic nominee.
103  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Marty Memorial for Absurd & Ignorant Posts VII on: October 03, 2017, 01:34:49 pm
Even with all the misuses of the word "socialism" by right-wingers and people with socialist avatars who are still pretty standard Democrats, this might be up there for worst use of the term:
If you're talking about heatcharger and the like, they're doing it sarcastically. The Americans with actual socialist avatars, afaik, aren't necessarily "pretty standard Democrats".

No, Atlas has a lot of center-left posters who think supporting universal health care and tuition-free college makes them a socialist.
104  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Why is ghostmonkey/Thomas Jackson completely ignored by the mods? on: October 03, 2017, 11:51:01 am
Maybe you should report his posts?

I have.
105  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Wouldn't Vox have been awesome in the past? on: October 03, 2017, 08:03:55 am
They would be républican leaning until either 1964 or
1992

Vox as pro-Reagan.

HAHAHAHAHA HA HA NO
106  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Dems: Would you be okay with the party nominating a White Male that isn't Biden? on: October 03, 2017, 07:13:37 am
Bernie is Jewish, not white.

The vast majority of US Jews are classified as "White" on the Census.
107  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If Millard Fillmore was around today, what would his favourite TV show be? on: October 03, 2017, 07:11:57 am
Family Guy
108  Forum Community / Forum Community / Wouldn't Vox have been awesome in the past? on: October 02, 2017, 10:54:52 pm
Yes, inspired from some discussion of what candidates a 19th Century version of Vox would've supported and if they would've supported William Jennings Bryan. But they would've had some great articles!

Bimetallism, explained
The USS Maine incident, explained
The US occupation of the Phillippines, explained
Civic Biology, explained

And then fast forward a few decades

The Anschluss, explained
Molotov-Ribbentrop, explained
The German occupation of the Rhine, explained
109  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: California primary may be moved after SC, could clinch the nomination for Harris on: October 02, 2017, 08:21:14 pm
Remember how California on Super Tuesday in 2008 locked up the nomination for Hillary?
110  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should EnglishPete and Klartext's posting history be mandatory reading... on: October 02, 2017, 07:14:33 pm
Lets force ProfressiveCanadian to do it!
111  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Dems: Would you be okay with the party nominating a White Male that isn't Biden? on: October 02, 2017, 11:54:42 am
This strawman being so widely believed is bizarre. There's a bunch of woke as he'll sites that supported Sanders over Hillary and where most people would obviously still support Sanders over Cory Booker. No one but trolls is screaming "NO WHITE MALES"
112  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: New data suggests Hillary won white male/female millennials. on: October 02, 2017, 11:52:12 am
Okay as a member of Generation Z  I think that we are definitely more conservatives then Millennials we hate sjw's safe spaces etc but from what i've seen most of us are Fiscally conservative and Socially liberal I think that our generation will like people in the center

Truly the most relevant and important issues of our time obviously. Especially in regards to presidential elections.

I was into the PC backlash thing around 2014/early 2015 but at this point it's just another form of PC. So people are annoying on Twitter whining about microagressions, get over it. There are way worse/more important things happening in the world right now. I've moved on.

Kind of hilarious how some here think once Gen Z are paying off student loans and trying to start families and all that that their top priority is still going to be "triggering people on Tumblr" or whatever (assuming that's even the top priority for a majority NOW and that that sort of thing will even still be a thing then.)
113  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: New data suggests Hillary won white male/female millennials. on: October 02, 2017, 12:22:40 am
Okay as a member of Generation Z  I think that we are definitely more conservatives then Millennials we hate sjw's safe spaces etc but from what i've seen most of us are Fiscally conservative and Socially liberal I think that our generation will like people in the center

Truly the most relevant and important issues of our time obviously. Especially in regards to presidential elections.
114  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Marty Memorial for Absurd & Ignorant Posts VII on: October 01, 2017, 11:35:09 pm
Even with all the misuses of the word "socialism" by right-wingers and people with socialist avatars who are still pretty standard Democrats, this might be up there for worst use of the term:

North Korea doesn't try to be somewhat socialist the way Cuba does. They're more totalitarian than anything else.

In what way is North Korea less socialist than Cuba?

Cuba actually has a longer life expectancy than the US, while North Korea misses by 9 years.
115  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If JFK was around today, what party would he be a part of? on: October 01, 2017, 10:23:50 pm
Democratic obviously. Has anyone even said otherwise?
116  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Movement to abolish McDonalds on: October 01, 2017, 08:54:39 pm
I want McDonalds to collapse.

And then something to rise from the ashes that is exactly the same in every way except there's no sesame seeds on any of the buns. Food allergies, man.

Doesn't Wendy's not have those?
117  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: People under 18 paying taxes on: October 01, 2017, 08:24:02 pm

If we based the voting age on "maturity", would even half the population ever be eligible? My general stance is that all "minimum" ages should be lowered two years (with exceptions for drinking and consent, naturally). Drinking and voting should be 16, driving should be 14, etc.

That sounds like the recipe for disaster.

Uh, that already is the driving age in North Dakota.
118  General Politics / Individual Politics / Opinion of the Spanish National Police on: October 01, 2017, 08:16:40 pm
Pretty obviously nothing but a band of savage thugs. Obvious HP.
119  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Why is ghostmonkey/Thomas Jackson completely ignored by the mods? on: October 01, 2017, 07:58:32 pm
So suggesting emo music for the National Anthem isnt trolling?

Only one of those songs I linked to was emo.
120  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Movement to abolish McDonalds on: October 01, 2017, 06:42:14 pm
That just looks like a standard population density map

121  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: New data suggests Hillary won white male/female millennials. on: October 01, 2017, 06:40:20 pm
The hilarious thing is Timmy says I like to bully children with what he said in this thread...
122  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Why is ghostmonkey/Thomas Jackson completely ignored by the mods? on: October 01, 2017, 02:32:08 pm
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=264430.0

Yep, have to give this the benefit of the doubt, this may have just been an attempt to stir discussion and not trying to irritate people and create another sh!tshow. Tough to tell.
123  About this Site / The Atlas / Why is ghostmonkey/Thomas Jackson completely ignored by the mods? on: October 01, 2017, 02:17:13 pm
He's honestly the single most blatant troll in forum history. Just read his posting history going back eight years, basically EVERY SINGLE POST he makes is designed to stir up sh!t. It's not even that he's just expressing unpopular or controversial views, he does so intentionally in the most aggravating and problem-seeking way possible. And he's been doing this off and on since Obama was elected.
124  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should the National Anthem be changed? on: September 30, 2017, 11:54:09 pm

All of these songs are awful, I know its been run into the ground forever, but your taste in music is odd. No one can hear anything the singers are saying, its just a constant murderous whine. Do people really enjoy listening to that?

That's objectively false. Not only is it not that difficult to understand for me, most people can with little difficulty (unlike with death metal or something.) If you go to a show you'll see tons of people in the crowd singing along with the dancing.

As far as if people actually enjoy listening to it...I'll just ask if the people in these videos look like they're having fun or not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj1g-W3wtio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGvNDdi8yh4
125  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should the National Anthem be changed? on: September 30, 2017, 08:16:52 pm
everyone should sing the internationale

That's a terrible song.
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