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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you one of the 7 people who “likes” the forum on Facebook? on: October 28, 2017, 04:30:10 am
"8 people like this. Be the first of your friends. Also the last of your friends. You have no friends. Despair."
2  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The dark side of the Bible on: July 21, 2017, 03:30:58 am
I was doing some research recently and came across this passage:

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13 If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” 15 then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. 16 Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels[a] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

The Bible was written by many different people at various points, all a very long time ago. They existed, lived within a community that had culture and traditions, beliefs, rituals. They ate food and told jokes, had squabbles, drank too much sometimes, slept with each other. They wrote with their context. There are things going on outside of the pages. The above passage is useful, to me, to show that taking most of the Bible literally is not helpful for personal growth or a healthy tightly knit community.

That doesn't excuse anything but it's important to keep in mind that the overall point is not the minute contents of the book itself, but the bigger picture and story its telling. It is not hard to find objectively bizarre horrifying things going on in the Bible.. but these things are not the purpose of Christianity, or its God. The Bible is a man made product. See in its weirdness a mirror of your own issues. There are good things hidden away in there, too.. very good things. Don't throw out the proverbial baby.
3  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The dark side of the Bible on: July 21, 2017, 03:29:50 am
I was doing some research recently and came across this passage:

Quote
13 If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” 15 then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. 16 Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels[a] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

The Bible was written by many different people at various points, all a very long time ago. They existed, lived within a community that had culture and traditions, beliefs, rituals. They ate food and told jokes, had squabbles, drank too much sometimes, slept with each other. They wrote with their context. There are things going on outside of the pages. The above passage is useful, to me, to show that taking most of the Bible literally is not helpful for personal growth or a healthy tightly knit community.

That doesn't excuse anything but it's important to keep in mind that the overall point is not the minute contents of the book itself, but the bigger picture and story its telling. It is not hard to find objectively bizarre horrifying things going on in the Bible.. but these things are not the purpose of Christianity, or its God. The Bible is a man made product. See in its weirdness a mirror of your own issues. There are good things hidden away in there, too.. very good things. Don't throw out the proverbial baby.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Campus Rape Policies Get a New Look as the Accused Get DeVos's Ear (NYTimes) on: July 21, 2017, 03:16:54 am
They ain't coming back to defend themselves Mortimer.  They made their drive by post, got that feeling of superiority they were looking for, and then left.  I suppose they might come back to see who patted them on the back for their strong support for feminism, but I wouldn't count on it.
"They" (well played!) take for granted that at tHe tOXiC pLaCe you get a convenient notification when someone has quoted you in a thread. Sorry friend!
5  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Favorite Linkin Park Songs on: July 21, 2017, 03:12:33 am
If you were a teenager in the 2000s and weren't a fan of LP, what were you doing with your life?

Damn straight.  

Linkin Park's lyrics made me cringe when I actually began paying attention to them. They were certainly the most popular during the "I'm Upset" musical heyday, which was all pretty bad. But I won't deny that I listened to them and I did enjoy the music at the time. I voted for Faint because I have a thing for ham-fisted attention grabbing string riffs (Faint by Linkin Park is A WHOLE LOT like Toxic by Britney Spears, guys!)
6  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Linkin Park lead singer Chester Bennington dies on: July 21, 2017, 02:58:42 am
have to say, it took him an impressively long time to break

rip. he certainly didn't tickle my ears very much but through learning about his past, well, this is all pretty terrible.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Campus Rape Policies Get a New Look as the Accused Get DeVos's Ear (NYTimes) on: July 21, 2017, 02:43:14 am
Rape is the only crime for which people are proposing doing away with the presumption of innocence. It produces a unique kind of response online because it is unique in that position. I don't see how that proves people concerned about preserving the presumption of innocence are somehow betraying their malevolence. They would have the same reaction and be just as concerned if people were talking about doing away with the presumption of innocence for theft or libel, it's just that no one is proposing that.

Recently here a woman enrolled with Australia Defense Force Academy accused a fellow cadet of raping her. He was found not guilty. I only found out about it at this point, and I was kind of amazed during the news reports that the accused man was named but the woman was not (although after 5 seconds of thought you can work out why things are done this way, whether or not it's good is up to you)

The accuser was questioned for two days straight - text messages and all social interactions held to the highest degree of scrutiny. Her story held up and examined in front of family, loved ones, the accused, the jury, media, all of these public officials. The story of her.. rape. Recounted in excruciating detail. By her. Over and over.

So, you know.. the court decided she was lying. And that's fine, especially if it's correct. I do not need to be told about how it's unfair for men. Believe me, when these things come up for a public discussion, that's all you hear because there is this cacophony of men falling over themselves to scream about injustice. I get it, I get that this is a scary thing and it's not fair that he was named and his future is in question forever and there is an assumption of guilt from the start. I.. never said I was cool with that.

What bothers me is that mostly the ones who speak up don't give a hint of a sh**t about women (or men for that matter) who have had the bravery to take the enormous risk of coming forward. There is no thought for having to sit in front of a people recounting everything leading up to, during, and after your rape. An investigation into such a horrifying act that could have lasted years. The stress and agony on the other side. You never hear anyone on the other side. It's always about you and how it's unfair. It's missing the whole picture in a way that makes my skin crawl. And I don't even necessarily disagree that reforms are needed, but you know.. sorry for being a self-righteous asshole!
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Klartext Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI on: July 21, 2017, 02:08:31 am
Libertas is a fine, upstanding member of the AAD community, highly regarded, who has proven himself to be wholly reformed and seeking forgiveness from his past iniquities. He's simply an all around great guy with a lot (and I mean A LOT) of impactful insights to share.

Recently I've come to realize that he deserves to post here much, much more than at AAD. His posting style is more fitting and his words would no doubt instill a sense of wonder and awe in the new crop of Atlas posters.

He also does the maps sometimes, once, I heard? I have come to recognize that that kind of thing gives your collective scrote the goosepimples. He should post here! Exclusively, even! Unban The Man!

Libertas is the ultimate whore. Arguably second to Opebo in terms of depravity and degeneracy. A very deplorable post indeed!

Please do not sully the good name of my very close personal friend.
9  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: can you just UNBAN LIBERTAS on: July 21, 2017, 02:00:55 am
Anyway, this whole petition seems to be a moot point, since Libertas indicated no interested in applying for an unban.
It's my understanding that he wrote a request. A very detailed, well-researched request, with news snippets, bolding bits for emphasis, graphs, personal anecdotes, and half baked historical context. He predicted all the ways he imagines you would have responded before you even had a chance to say anything and ran with them each, sliding down every slippery slope he could find along the way. His plea went into such a size that upon his attempt to submit it his ISP found it was bottlenecking everything, and it was mostly discarded before the packets found their way to the destination, the only bits remaining the first and last few words. Simply, it ended up as: "Do they REALLY think [...] anything regarding my turgid manhood?"
10  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: can you just UNBAN LIBERTAS on: July 16, 2017, 05:19:46 am
Why would we want a known bigot back?  (and why does the toxic place allow a known bigot to post?)

for your parenthetical question, well, we (most specifically HockeyDude) are devotees to the right to free speech. bigots are welcome and are served their just desserts whenever possible.

for the first question, well, think of it as though you are accusing Libertas of raping the forum with his wordsy spiels. don't you think he deserves a fair trial?? a right to stand proud and tall despite your accusation until such a time as he has been proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt before a group of his peers?? please stop trying to ruin this man's life and take away his rights.
11  About this Site / The Atlas / can you just UNBAN LIBERTAS on: July 14, 2017, 07:33:08 pm
Libertas is a fine, upstanding member of the AAD community, highly regarded, who has proven himself to be wholly reformed and seeking forgiveness from his past iniquities. He's simply an all around great guy with a lot (and I mean A LOT) of impactful insights to share.

Recently I've come to realize that he deserves to post here much, much more than at AAD. His posting style is more fitting and his words would no doubt instill a sense of wonder and awe in the new crop of Atlas posters.

He also does the maps sometimes, once, I heard? I have come to recognize that that kind of thing gives your collective scrote the goosepimples. He should post here! Exclusively, even! Unban The Man!
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Campus Rape Policies Get a New Look as the Accused Get DeVos's Ear (NYTimes) on: July 14, 2017, 07:13:51 pm
Those whose fingers begin flailing hysterically against their keyboards whenever talk turns to whether the accused are getting a raw deal in regards to rape accusations are proving to the world that they don't actually care about justice, social problems, or rape itself. It's just a reflex for self-preservation. The only "that could be me" they can process is being the one accused of rape. And therefore that is what matters to them, purely. But in much the same way you don't want to be accused of rape, you probably also don't want to be the one coming to the defense exclusively of those accused of rape. You look really gross really quickly, to everyone.

There's probably a discussion worth having about all of this but I doubt it's ever going to happen here.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Fremont Voting Booth : July 2017 special election on: July 07, 2017, 05:09:11 pm
alpha
14  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Do you smoke? on: July 03, 2017, 11:42:11 pm
I smoked cigarettes for about a decade, quit three years ago.
15  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: I want to make friends who are good at VBA. on: June 26, 2017, 02:23:38 am
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/vs/alm/aa211953(v=office.11).aspx

this should help you get started buddy
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Describe Your Congressional District on: June 24, 2017, 09:48:35 am
Level of chill, 2017: 85%

looks like I'm fine
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Describe Your Congressional District on: June 24, 2017, 08:58:29 am
People describing their homes as a series of statistics is depressing. Not in that the content of the statistics is necessarily depressing, just that that is how they would choose to do so to find it interesting.

yes I know this is Atlas and everything but I can still now feel the icy clutch of despair on my shoulder, sticking his dry tongue into my ear, hissing, spraying acidic bits of saliva into the creases and folds, median income 24,000, teen pregnancy rate 14.41 per 1000, percentage of farmland not corn 4.5%

It's just a topic, bro.  Trying to get more exposed to the House districts without spending hours and hours pulling this information myself, and I figured people would like to describe the politics and demographics of where they live ... not like I've ever answered the "Where are you from?" question with, "Well, I was born in IL-18, but now I live in IA-2."

please refer to the "I know this is Atlas and everything but..." portion of my post, girlfriend.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gun laws probably saved airport security officer's life on: June 24, 2017, 08:36:02 am
and if we had knife laws nobody would have been hurt!
Let's ban all assault knives. Know what? Let's ban kitchen knives too.  That seems to be everyone's goal nowadays

*A BRILLIANT FLASH OF LIGHT*

YOUNG WOMAN: Oh, you dashing gentlemen!

[Enters: FLAME-SHIRTED MAN and NINCOMPOOP]

NINCOMPOOP: M'lady.

*NINCOMPOOP TIPS HAT AND FLASHES ASSAULT RIFLE*

FLAME-SHIRTED MAN: I may be a slow-typer, but my fingers are always moving!

*YOUNG WOMAN blushes, fans herself with a severed hand*

YOUNG WOMAN: I just can't resist your scents!

[Screen goes black, PRODUCT appears on scream]

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YOUNG WOMAN (Voice only): Oh my stars, TREAD ON MEEE!!!!*

GRUFF NARRATOR: Choose TEDIUM, Free Yourself From Empathy™!

*"MEEE!!!!" should be said with at least five syllables
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Are people who post pro-Green Party things using wi-fi hypocrites? on: June 24, 2017, 04:19:05 am
just screamed really loudly directly into my keyboard but none of the keys registered a press
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama's cabinet has been cashing in and selling out so far on: June 24, 2017, 04:14:23 am
No surprise. And Hillary was going to choose a Starbucks billionaire as her Secretary of Labor. Next time, how about we don't nominate some awful neoliberal?

We should have nominated Bernies Sanders, who would nominated one impoverished but genuinely sympathetic to Every Man, Mr. Jay "UEEEEEERRAAAAAIIIIRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAIIIIRRRRR" Fern to the Secretary of Everything instead. RIP America
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How many WPM can you type? on: June 24, 2017, 03:44:04 am
I just scored 81 on my first go, although I voted 90-100 because I normally get that kind of score when I haven't been drinking. I also do most of my typing on my phone using swype which has made the little neurons and their connections that dictate how quickly I can spew hate on the internet using a conventional keyboard shiver and sputter and cough and then waste away over the years to the detriment of my fragile clickity ego
22  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: I want to make friends who are good at VBA. on: June 24, 2017, 03:23:51 am
you want to make an automated script that looks through a document and adds () in from of blue words with visual basic for applications?
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you support Evergreen's permaban? on: June 24, 2017, 02:38:33 am
of course not. this place is an ugly disaster and getting rid of good posters is not helping.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How often do you burn your mouth while eating? on: June 24, 2017, 02:34:17 am
If your food is hot enough to burn your mouth, you're probably doing something wrong.

I mean you need to cook things, buddy. You need to kill that bacteria. It will get in there and you will spray out both ends. You will clutch the shower curtain railing, wheezing, crying, begging for anything but this. You will hate it so much you will feel a rekindling of something in your heart that allowed you to believe in your childhood religion.

I mean, unless you were eating cereal or whatever.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Describe Your Congressional District on: June 24, 2017, 02:26:56 am
People describing their homes as a series of statistics is depressing. Not in that the content of the statistics is necessarily depressing, just that that is how they would choose to do so to find it interesting.

yes I know this is Atlas and everything but I can still now feel the icy clutch of despair on my shoulder, sticking his dry tongue into my ear, hissing, spraying acidic bits of saliva into the creases and folds, median income 24,000, teen pregnancy rate 14.41 per 1000, percentage of farmland not corn 4.5%
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