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10926  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 10:17:09 pm
Looks like there were some serious Van Drew coattails if Milam won.  (Doesn't change things number-wise, of course.)
10927  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 09:53:26 pm
Unless there is a surprise coming in District 39, it looks like the GOP has broken their 16 year losing streak in the State Assembly.
10928  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 09:50:53 pm
Democrats easily picked up Marlboro; Republicans easily picked up Brick and Toms River.

I think Gilmore's days are numbered in Hamilton, too, but no official numbers to report.
10929  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 09:46:30 pm
Quote from: PoliticsNJ.com
Democrat James Whelan defeated GOP State Sen. Sonny McCullough in the 2nd district.   But two Republican Assembly candidates, John Amodeo and Vincent Polistina, are leading.
10930  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 09:45:09 pm
Milam seems to be in much better shape than I thought; Panter in much worse.  We'll see.
10931  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 09:41:34 pm
That's what I overheard at his concession but I think that was just "We're gonna win" stuff so far.

From the polls I saw, it'd be a heck of an upset if it turned out to be a faulty prediction.

Sonny McCullough is conceding to George Norcross very graciously.

And it sounds like the GOP picked up Whelan's Assembly seat.

Nothing in from the 2nd yet but rumors.

Except for the part about McCullough conceeding.
10932  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 09:39:04 pm
Sonny McCullough is conceding to George Norcross very graciously.

And it sounds like the GOP picked up Whelan's Assembly seat.
10933  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 09:36:12 pm
Assembly:
Milam looks to probably be home safe in the 1st district. With Cape May County mostly in, Milam leads Donohue by a little over 1,000 votes, and Cape May County is the most Republican of the three counties in the district.

Ironically, though, Van Drew was expected to run strongest in Cape May County, having to run up a significant enough lead there to overcome Asselta's lead from his home base around Vineland.
10934  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Elections on: November 06, 2007, 06:14:49 pm
New Jersey Election Results live: http://www.njn.net/television/webcast/livestreaming.html

Coverage has already started; polls close at 8 PM.
10935  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate vacancy on: November 06, 2007, 05:10:26 pm
Everett has disapeared and not sworn in, Since this is the Pacific seat i believe the governor should appoint a replacement or hold a special election.
This needs to be taken care of immediately or i will be forced to sue the governor.

I would imagine that more time would be required to pass before the Governor is empowered to name a replacement.  It hasn't even been a week yet.
10936  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Elections on: November 06, 2007, 04:59:36 pm
My calls.

SENATE (pickups in bold)
01 - Van Drew by 4.1%.
02 - Whelan by 10.2%.
07 - Allen by 22.3%.
08 - Haines by 5.1%.
11 - S. Kean by 17.3%.
12 - Beck by 0.8%.
14 - Baroni by 19.5%.
39 - Cardinale by 13.8%.

NET: 1 Dem pickup (01, 02, 12).

ASSEMBLY (pickups in bold)
01 - Albano (1), Donahue (2), Clark (3), Milam (4)
02 - Polistina (1), Amodeo (2), Wilkins (3), Spellman (4)
08 - Rudder (1), Addiego (2), Riley (3), Fifis (4)
11 - Rible (1), Angelini (2), Napolitani (3), Pirnat (4)
12 - Panter (1), O'Scanlon (2), Casagrande (3), Mallet (4)
14 - Greenstein (1), Goodwin (2), Bushman (3), D'Angelo (4)
36 - Scalera (1), Schaer (2), Pio Costa (3), Diorio (4)
39 - Vandervalk (1), Rooney (2), Manna (3), Fletcher (4)

NET: 3 GOP pickups (01, 02, 08).

I anticipate Assembly 8 and 39 to be much closer than I had previously thought.
10937  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 04:32:03 pm
Mr. Moderate, will the NJN Election Coverage be available to watch online as well? I hate not being home on Election Day!

I assume so.  It was streaming online in 2005.

The coverage is terrific, but the raw numbers at the bottom of the screen are too small and pixelated to read.  I don't know how crucial all that is, though, since PoliticsNJ had the results down to the penny in 2003 only a short time after the polls closed.
10938  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Governor MAS117 on: November 06, 2007, 12:41:44 pm
I would just like to state that I am against all of the current legislation up this month in the Northeast. While in general I am not opposed to the metric bill, I feel that this is something that can not be done on a region to region basis. I would urge Senator Verily to introduce this in the Senate, in which case I will gladly support it.

So, if I understand correctly, it would all be useless to propose it and pass them because you'd veto them anyway...

Unless you think support could reach 2/3.
10939  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Electi on: November 06, 2007, 12:19:35 pm
My mother lives in the 12th and just asked me whom to vote for. She just wants her taxes lowered and has met both women at an event at her community, a 55+ active adults development that sprung up after 2003 and is full of Democratic voters.

I told her first that neither senator was going to lower her taxes. Then I gave her arguments for and against Karcher and Beck that I gleaned from politicsnj.com. Although I'm a Democrat, I don't give a damn for N.J. politics and respect both sides there. I said Karcher will never do what she ran to do in '03, because the leadership won't let it happen, but Beck hasn't done anything in the Assembly and wasn't going to accomplish anything as a senator, although competition in the Senate would be good. I finished up by saying that at least Karcher will have to be responsive to constituents in her district, being as Republican as it is, while if Beck wins she'll never have to campaign for reelection again unless/until she gets caught with her hand in the cookie jar.

I'm curious to hear which way she votes.

Panter/O'Scanlon/etc. never came up and I would have punted completely.

Beck will likely have to campaign again in four years, especially if Panter lasts through 2007 and 2009.

I've honestly never met Beck, but I've talked with Panter a number of times.  He's a great guy, and assumedly a better candidate for office than Karcher.

My mother and I had a similar conversation, but instead of District 12, she wants to know how to vote in District 23.  She's voting against Lance because she didn't like how he was dressed when he showed up to a Memorial Day 1997 event; voting against Karrow because I told her about her assault problems; and voting against Doherty because he's a 'Mountain Man' loon.

I think it's going to be largely Democrats and write-in votes.  She's been on an anti-incumbent tear since voting third party in the Ferguson/Stender race.
10940  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Budget on: November 06, 2007, 12:13:31 pm
This Senate seems to have a suicidal streak.

Are the ever so principled nay-voters even aware that it is currently impossible to do a budget?

Very aware, and cognizant that the only way to get people to address the problem is to force them to.

This Senate seems to have a suicidal streak.

Are the ever so principled nay-voters even aware that it is currently impossible to do a budget?
If only one of them would re introduce some method of getting something actually started or just killing the thing. Keeping it on life support like this is useless, and rather embarrassing.

We tried last session to make the budget process as vague as humanly possible, but the anti-budget crowd was uninterested to support even that.  It was put on temporary hiatus to address Jury Reform, I believe.
10941  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: County results map on: November 05, 2007, 08:35:14 pm
How the hell did gporter lose Alaska?!

He campaigned heavily there, and thus, Alaskans got to know him.
10942  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: PPT Nomination Thread on: November 05, 2007, 06:44:25 pm
Sounds like he's got four votes so far.
10943  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: How will the Mississippi's Governors race play out. on: November 05, 2007, 06:38:48 pm
Barbour wins with 58.2%.
10944  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Kentucky Predictions on: November 05, 2007, 06:37:32 pm
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Eaves wins this one, too.

Eaves (D)  61.05%
Fletcher (R) 38.95%
10945  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NJ Elections : Poll - Dems have edge going into election --- More on Elections on: November 05, 2007, 06:35:08 pm
I am in denial over Karcher's seat. She's a good legislator who's being brought down by her own party's leadership with their half assed ethics reform.
I am going to say dems net -1 to -3 in the Assembly and net 2 still in the senate. I am going to go against the odds and say Karcher will win even though I am in some state of denial over it.

I'd be more upset to see Panter lose than to see Karcher lose.  Karcher brought her loss upon herself by not living up to her own ethical standards, and I think Jen Beck will be a strong replacement.

I don't like the fact that the next State Legislative session will be without either Asselta or Van Drew—both are terrific legislators.  Greenstein is an inherently weak legislator, and I think the Democratic party (and the district) would honestly be better off if she lost out to her running mate this Tuesday.
I'd have to agree with everything you said but I don't think Beck will be any good.

Let me add this too: Republican Phil Haines makes a better Democrat than Democrat Fran Bodine does in District 8.  I can't think of a reason why any Democrat in the world should want to vote for the more conservative (and not-so-squeaky-clean) Bodine in that race—he's literally a DINO.
10946  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Mideast Governor HappyWarrior on: November 05, 2007, 01:03:44 pm
I'd like to announce that my next nominee for the Lt. Governorship of the Mideast will be..........Peter!

Somebody who hasn't voted in the past 2 elections?

Inks, can you please stop questioning every single thing I do?

Isn't that kinda the point of loyal opposition?  Questioning the Governor of the opposite party and ideology?

And not to criticize you myself, but I'd suggest that the next time you choose an LG to send to the voters, it'd be in poor form to leave them hanging out to dry with an "abstain" vote.

Abstaination is only right in my opinion, it's not as if the President gets a vote in the confirmation of his Secretary of Defense.

Apples and oranges, because, you see, the President cannot as a rule of law vote to confirm a Secretary of Defense.  In this case, you can vote to confirm your LG choice.
10947  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should pop/soda machines be allowed in schools? on: November 05, 2007, 12:08:40 am
I say no machines, but don't ban soda within the walls of a school.

That's where I'm at, though I might make an exception for, say, a bottled water vending machine.

My main concern is health, not anti-corporate BS.  Schools do a terrible job with nutrition.  In many cases, even if a student wanted to eat healthy, they couldn't with the standard school cafeteria choices.
10948  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Open Campus? on: November 05, 2007, 12:04:52 am
I think for those 11-12 graders it should be allowed. We did not have an open campus at my high school but I think it is a good idea.

I guess it depends on the school.  At my high school, in the middle of Hunterdon County, we had a closed campus.  Mostly because there was no where for kids to go otherwise.
10949  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Public Interest Amendment on: November 05, 2007, 12:02:58 am
Updated Tally on Lewis's Amendment
Aye: 3 (Sam; Brandon; Ebowed)
Nay: 4 (Verily; Earl; Moderate; afleitch)
Yet to Vote: 3 (Lewis; Rob; Sensei)

Just for the record, "Everett" is yet to vote, not "Rob."

Actually, neither is. Everett hasn't sworn herself in as a Senator yet.

Ah, so I guess it's technically a "vacancy," then?
10950  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Budget on: November 05, 2007, 12:01:55 am
Thank goodness the senate continues to keep up with its duties/remove the ones it cannot do, showing itself to be a highly effective body. (With an exception to Mr. Moderate)

I cannot even begin to understand how you believe this vote has anything to do with "keeping up its duties" or "remov(ing) the ones it cannot do."  This vote is, by definition, the exact opposite of that: Sweeping the dysfunctional budget process under the rug—again—hoping it will go away if we just cross our fingers and wish really hard.
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