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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump asked RNC chair Ronna Romney McDaniel to stop using Romney in her name on: December 09, 2017, 06:29:49 pm
And she actually gave in. What is the female equivalent of a cuck?

77  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: DSA organiser in Alabama not voting for Jones, "he is a terrible candidate" on: December 09, 2017, 06:16:05 pm
At a time when the already abysmal American healthcare system is at threat of being outright gutted by congress, Doug Jones has repeatedly shied away from supporting Bernie Sanders’s Medicare For All plan, and has not backed single-payer healthcare

Solution? Elect Roy Moore. That would fix things.
78  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What happens to BRTD if Seth MacFarlane is outed as a titanic pervert? on: December 09, 2017, 04:46:04 pm
BRTD would probably dissapear for days/weeks, like when opebo was banned.
79  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Former HPs on: December 09, 2017, 01:11:11 pm
Also worth mentioning: I like Dubya much better since he left office.

He's still an HP. Just because he's out of office doesn't mean he redeemed himself.
80  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NRSC Refuses to endorse Roy Moore on: December 09, 2017, 08:10:53 am
An empty gesture just like when Ryan "unendorsed" Trump in the last months of campaign. They still rather have a child molester in the Senate, as long as he's a Republican. Moore is going to win due to party identity. Ivey's stance ("I don't disbelief the accusers, but I'll vote Republican anyway") doesn't need further elaboration.

In 1990 Republicans not only disowned David Duke when he advanced to the runoff as a "Republican". They actually worked to prevent his election. Here we just have a "well, we're just looking elsewhere" case.
81  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should Clarence Thomas be forced to stand down? on: December 09, 2017, 08:08:44 am
The fact that a Democratic controlled Senate confirmed a judge as crooked as Thomas and a pervert like Thomas to the Supreme Court boggles my mind.

I mean, Ted Kennedy and Daniel Inouye were in the Democratic controlled Senate at the time, so it's not like they had standards.

Thomas was confirmed (narrowly) thanks to such conservadem Senators like Boren.
82  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone VI: What Is and What Should Never Be on: December 09, 2017, 07:33:50 am
Wonderful news! Smiley
83  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poland General Discussion on: December 09, 2017, 07:30:31 am
So, Szydło is going to be Deputy PM "for social affairs", but without actual portfolio.

OK, there's a precedent of Jaruga-Nowacka in Belka Cabinet, before she was given a ministry. But she was leader of a junior coalition party. Also Gosiewski was Deputy PM without a portfolio.
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Al Franken to resign, Lt. Gov Tina Smith likely to be appointed on: December 08, 2017, 05:01:45 pm
I wanted Walter Mondale as a placeholder. Appointing him to the Coleman's seat would be awesome.
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Citizens HQ - By-Laws and Platform Debate on: December 08, 2017, 04:58:35 pm
This should be our inspiration:

And I volunteer to fill in as our Itamar Franco.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: October 2017 Federalist Party Convention - Partial Results (Expulsion at vote) on: December 08, 2017, 04:56:39 pm
I honestly can't help but consider reasons provided for Oakvale's expulsion as, well, weird.

I've been in absolute disagreement with him over the GM issue, but I must it to him, he's pretty consistent. Opposing a nominee on the ground you oppose the existence of the post is not an unprecedented thing in politics. Unless the party were to enforce voting discipline on this, it's just his opinion he's entitled to. The party of course have a right not to endorse his candidacy in the light of overall ideological differences, but this is still not a ground for expulsion.

I know, I know, it's not my party, but I'm worried about setting a dangerous precedent for all parties.

I am still very conflicted on this vote, as I want to keep the Federalist Party inclusive of various viewpoints. I would’ve abstained from my vote, but I promised Leinad that I would vote aye.

Really? Is that a proper way to determine how one should exercise their voting right as a member?
87  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Happy Feast of the Immaculate Conception Holiday on: December 08, 2017, 04:47:13 pm
Did the OP celebrate by performing some immaculate experiments in his basement laboratory?
88  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forum Community Guidelines on: December 08, 2017, 01:44:46 pm
I really miss Joe Republic

Funny??  You think I find performing my duties amusing?  Dealing with your trolling and then your incessant whining probably ranks somewhere between scrubbing the toilet and untangling the Christmas lights in terms of entertainment value, fyi.
89  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone VI: What Is and What Should Never Be on: December 08, 2017, 12:45:32 pm
This is always painful Sad Hope you'll find your friend somehow or, at the very least, he'd be safe out there.
90  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: "Treason against the state" on: December 08, 2017, 07:02:55 am
Impressive research, Dereich.

I understand Door's case, but I'm puzzled why Brown was convicted of treason. I mean, did he owe Virginia an allegiance or something?
91  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Virginia Society for the Preservation and Appreciation of High-Quality Posts on: December 07, 2017, 06:44:11 pm
A model effortpost

I thought this was interesting, so I did some research and found a law review article on the subject. I wasn't able to find a free version and its 68 pages long, so I'll just highlight some of what I consider interesting.

Forty-three states have treason statutes or constitutional provisions. The states without are Hawaii, Maryland, New Hampshire, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee. Hawaii is the only state to never have a law against treason.

The legal position of treason against the states today is sort of fuzzy; treason against the states COULD be a thing, but the window of what would specifically apply as state treason would be small, as states lack jurisdiction to punish treason against the United States as a whole. Also, most of the twenty-one states which have treason as part of their constitution nowhere actually define the punishment for it. If push ever came to shove, they would likely be deemed non self-executing and not currently valid.

As for why and how long they've been there, state treason statutes go back to a June 26, 1776, resolution of the Continental Congress:

Resolved, . . . That all persons, members of, or owing allegiance to any of the United Colonies, as before described, who shall levy war against any of the said colonies within the same, or be adherent to the king of Great Britain, or others the enemies of the *286 said colonies, or any of them, within the same, giving to him or them aid and comfort, are guilty of treason against such colony:

That it be recommended to the legislatures of the several United Colonies, to pass laws for punishing, in such manner as to them shall seem fit, such persons before described, as shall be proveably attainted of open deed, by people of their condition, of any of the treasons before described

And the topic of state treason was a hotly debated question at the Constitutional Convention. The vote on the proposal that the United States have sole power to declare punishment for treason failed 6-5.

State treason language, while mostly sticking to the "comfort or aid" language above, has changed and varied over time. For example, South Carolina's 1805 statute that made it treason to connect oneself, directly or indirectly, “with any slave or slaves in a state of actual insurrection within this state” or to “excite, counsel, advise, induce, aid, comfort or assist any slave or slaves to raise or attempt to raise an insurrection within this state.

Since the ratification of the Constitution, state courts have completed only two treason prosecutions, both of which occurred over 150 years ago. The first was Rhode Island's 1844 prosecution of Thomas Dorr; the second was Virginia's 1859 prosecution of John Brown. There were a few before the constitution as well, Respublica v. Carlisle (High Treason against Pennsylvania in 1778) being a good example. The Dorr trial is really interesting; Dorr tried to enforce a "People's Constitution" with universal manhood suffrage over the existing government still based on the royal charter. Details here. In both cases, defense counsel argued that treason could only be a federal crime and in both cases the defendants were found guilty.

There were a few more recent cases that were dropped, including some of the strikers in the Homestead Strikes. The most recent was Ohio v. Raley in 1954. In that case, three defendants were separately indicted for contempt of the Ohio Un-American Activities Commission. After having been sworn as witnesses before the Commission, the defendants each refused to testify in response to certain questions and were after charged with treason. They were found guilty, but the case was reversed on other grounds by SCOTUS.
92  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Unban CaliforniaDreaming on: December 07, 2017, 06:36:31 pm
Why does the OP care so much about this?
93  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas forum leaderboard on: December 07, 2017, 06:02:08 pm
Btw, anyone know what happened to Grumps?  He was posting at a very high rate in November, but then disappeared on Thanksgiving weekend and hasn't been back since.

Facebook sightings of Grumps confirmed.
94  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: can you just UNBAN LIBERTAS on: December 07, 2017, 05:55:19 pm
Also, how about giving CaliforniaDreaming another chance as well? Indeed, what exactly did CD get banned for?

Why do you care so much about this?
95  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Irony Oremine on: December 07, 2017, 05:51:29 pm
OK, you two need a timeout.
96  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Martin Schulz: EU must be turned into the United States of Europe on: December 07, 2017, 05:47:24 pm
I'm very much in favor of this idea. However, I'd prefer countries that does not want to join a proper federation to remain within larger European community. Nothing to gain by pushing these aside.

And I'd love Poland to be a part of the US of E.
97  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Right to party membership? on: December 07, 2017, 03:59:48 pm
Personally I've been always viewing Atlasian party membership as something analogous to U.S. party registration.
98  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should Serbia remove all its military memorials? on: December 07, 2017, 03:52:06 pm
Don't lecture the Serbs about removals

99  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poland General Discussion on: December 07, 2017, 03:48:31 pm
Why is Kaczynski doing this? What did Szydlo do wrong?

Maybe he prefers a "fresh face" (lol) to inaugurate second half of parliamentary term. Dunno.

It's all pretty irrelevant anyway. Kaczyński could've picked a brick to replace Szydło for all practical purposes.
100  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poland General Discussion on: December 07, 2017, 03:16:05 pm
Initially she was rumored to be "promoted" - Sejm Marshal. Of course from any standpoint other than the order of precedence it's a demotion too.
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