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26  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 16, 2017, 12:28:21 am
After what happened with Gillespie, Greedo is desperate for a win.

They've won enough for the next 3 years, at least.
That is true.
27  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 16, 2017, 12:17:37 am
After what happened with Gillespie, Greedo is desperate for a win.
28  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 15, 2017, 08:56:53 pm
The steering committee meeting of the Alabama GOP is over and apparently the members avoided the media by sneaking out through a hidden door.
29  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 15, 2017, 08:07:21 pm
Did you guys not read it?
He said that it said D.A when he was not a DA.
I do believe itís BS That yearbook is probably a fake,

With all that being said while I want/support Moore he should drop out I donít want to lose a safe senate seat!
Maybe.

Maybe he was lying to impress those girls so that he could impress them.

Absolutely. Lying using two different pens and a bogus looking signiture

Signature, not signiture. If you are going to peddle trash, at least learn how to spell.
30  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 15, 2017, 07:51:22 pm
He simply dropped the A off of ADA which was his actual position.
31  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 15, 2017, 07:45:59 pm
Moore married his wife when she was 24, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't have contact with her well before that. With that said, even if he didn't meet her until after she was of age, it doesn't change the fact that he abused other girls.
32  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 15, 2017, 07:15:39 pm
Kayla Moore is 14 years younger than Moore and would have been in high school around the timeline of some of the revelations.
33  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 15, 2017, 06:14:43 pm
The school yearbook better be turned over for independent handwriting analysis.  Everyone is entitled to due process, even Roy Moore.

There is no legal action being taken here, so "due process" doesn't apply.
34  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 15, 2017, 04:53:08 pm

Stay moral, Alabama Republican Party.
35  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 15, 2017, 04:27:17 pm
The attorney that represented him for the Ten Commandments case and who chaired one of his campaigns for Supreme Court will be appearing with him at the press conference.
Is he going to sue the accusers?!
Wouldn't be surprising if he did that.
36  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 15, 2017, 04:18:51 pm
The attorney that represented him for the Ten Commandments case and who chaired one of his campaigns for Supreme Court will be appearing with him at the press conference.
37  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2018 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: CA-USC/LA Times: Feinstein +27 over de Leon on: November 15, 2017, 02:30:14 pm
The thing is there are a lot of very liberal voters who see Feinstein as sufficient and moderates see her as being just right. Plus, she's an institution.

If very liberal voters thought DiFi was sufficient, there wouldn't be such a big primary challenge to her left.

The polling isn't showing that the challenge is successful so far. And to be honest, this challenge is more about de Leon being termed out with no options than anything else at least from his standpoint. Atlas viciously hates Feinstein, but Atlas isn't the real world.

GIVE IT A DAMN REST, ICE SPEAR!
38  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2018 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: CA-USC/LA Times: Feinstein +27 over de Leon on: November 15, 2017, 02:13:00 pm
The thing is there are a lot of very liberal voters who see Feinstein as sufficient and moderates see her as being just right. Plus, she's an institution.
39  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2018 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: AZ-OH Insights: Sinema +3 over Ward, +1 over McSally; Ward +8 in the primary on: November 15, 2017, 02:06:13 pm
Yeah, let's stop pretending Ward would make this race safe D. Toss up/tilt D at best.

Oh, stop it. Ward would lose easily because she's far too extreme. She believes in chemtrails of all things.
40  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 14, 2017, 10:36:54 pm
I'm not IceSpear's biggest defender here, but he's largely right. Moore's probably going to win, and murder or any of the seven deadly sins would only help him.

He's entitled to an opinion, but his constant repetition of it is bordering on spamming and trolling.

If pointing out reality is trolling, then so be it.

Also, others have constantly repeated that they think Jones will win. So this "argument" meant to stifle dissent doesn't hold water. You guys should be mad at Alabama voters, not me.

Girl, bye.
41  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 14, 2017, 09:45:04 pm
I'm not IceSpear's biggest defender here, but he's largely right. Moore's probably going to win, and murder or any of the seven deadly sins would only help him.

He's entitled to an opinion, but his constant repetition of it is bordering on spamming and trolling.
42  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 14, 2017, 09:33:36 pm
I bet the Democrats regret not going with a candidate who was pro-life.  I bet there are enough voters like me in Alabama who are deeply disturbed by Moore's actions but would never vote for (what we view as) a baby killer.  If the Democrat were pro-life, I would have this at Likely D right now, but this seems to be a tossup.

That's what bothers me about "pro-lifers".  People are upset about "baby killers" but don't have a problem when the babies become teenagers and get molested??!!

We do have a problem with it, but murder is obviously a worse crime than any sexual crime could ever be.

When it comes to electing someone, neither crime is acceptable to ignore.
43  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 14, 2017, 09:13:35 pm
That robocall seems a lot like dog whistle.
44  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 14, 2017, 05:53:42 pm
Moore is back ahead on PredictIt. He's going to win.



Your name might be IceSpear, but your takes are scalding hot.

I think IceSpear wants Moore to win for whatever bizarre reason.
45  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 14, 2017, 04:58:58 pm
And obviously he switched parties to one that he is more comfortable in.
46  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls on: November 14, 2017, 02:27:36 pm
Moore is done for and I don't think "It's Alabama" is enough to save him at this point. His 2012 Supreme Court margin was the weakest statewide margin of any Republican in quite awhile, which means there were quite a few Republican voters that did not like him before the allegations. It's a lot easier now for many voters to abandon him.
47  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Does the Republican Party have a problem with paedophelia? on: November 13, 2017, 10:27:18 pm
Does the Democratic Party have a problem with sanctimonious hypocrisy, given that they gladly elected a man who actually killed a woman 7 times after the fact?

An accident is a lot different than intentional abuse.
48  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread: Bombshell allegations on: November 13, 2017, 08:57:46 pm
Jones deserves to win this election. He is such a good man. He's more christian than even Moore claims himself to be, yet Evangelicals rather a pedophile than a man with a D next to his name.

Does it not occur to you that they support someone who is rather transparently being subjected to a politically motivated witch hunt.

Consider the facts. In the Washington Post story it gave three accounts of Moore courting young women who were, according to Alabama law, of marriageable age. Perhaps you think that the age of consent in Alabama is too low (or more likely you think that young people should be sexually active for a number of years before getting married and starting a family). These stories describe Moore behaving in a highly proper and chaste manner, not only in public but also in private, always asking the mothers permission to court and not engaging in any premarital sex.

In the fourth story however the pattern of behaviour was totally different, abusive, secretive and unchaste. It could have sounded believable on its own but it completely failed to tally with the personality described in the other accounts.

Today's performance really seals it for me for this being BS. Another Oscar nominated Gloria Allred production. Today's Allred 'victim' came out with a statement that was not only describing yet another completely different MO but which read like bad fiction in a trashy novel. A well deserved Oscar nomination for all the over the top acting and fake crying but still pretty transparently fake.

Delete your account.
49  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread: Bombshell allegations on: November 13, 2017, 07:29:44 pm
If he wins, he will not be expelled. Having a full caucus is what Republicans want.

They still would. He gets expelled, then Ivey appoints Strange again (or maybe Sessions.)

It's a lot less complicated to keep Moore. They won't expel him.
50  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread: Bombshell allegations on: November 13, 2017, 07:25:57 pm
If he wins, he will not be expelled. Having a full caucus is what Republicans want.
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