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76  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Gameplay Thread on: September 25, 2017, 06:24:10 pm
The Madness of King George

It is up to me, long the deliverer of ignored truths, to express aloud the thought going through every Court in Europe. Over the last several years all Christendom watched with muted fascination as King George of England persecuted his Irish subjects and abandoned his People's hard-fought gains in India without cause or reason. Taken as sole incidents, perhaps caused by the stress of war, his conduct was explained away.

But now, peace has set in. Now, England has no more excuses to fall back on. The decision of King George to abandon his homeland and hundred of thousands of souls whom he ruled over for longer than he has ruled England without reason or justification must lead to one simple conclusion. We conclude that George II, King of England, has gone mad. Neither the Empire nor the Hapsburg realms wish for the resumption of war; it is out of respect for the English people and pity for their current situation that we must announce the obvious, not some desire to undo what has been done.

We call upon the King's able ministers and on George, the Prince of Wales, to intervene for the sake of the English people and the English Crown. Control your King! The harm he has already done to your realm is obvious; control him before his madness strikes again!
77  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Sports vs Politics on: September 25, 2017, 11:56:11 am
How is my team doing? I'd rather watch some boring political show than another season of the Jags falling on their face or my Alma Maters playing terribly.
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Fremont Voting Booth : September 2017 special parliamentary election on: September 24, 2017, 09:08:54 pm
[1] WI: Simfan34
[2] Rpryor
[3] WI: Seatown
79  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: NFL Pick Em Week 3 - and Week 2 Results on: September 24, 2017, 10:01:15 am

Sunday September 24

1:00 Games

Ravens at Jaguars
Broncos at Bills
Steelers at Bears
Falcons at Lions
Browns at Colts
Bucs at Vikings
Texans at Patriots
Dolphins at Jets
Giants at Eagles
Saints at Panthers

Seahawks at Titans 4:05
Bengals at Packers 4:25
Chiefs at Chargers 4:25
Raiders at Washington Football Team 8:30

Monday September 25

Cowboys at Cardinals

Two things about that first prediction. One, its actually not a 1:00 game as its in London; it started a few hours ago. Two, at the time you made that prediction, the Jags were up 23-0...maybe its for the best that it doesn't count.
80  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Aaron Hernandez had stage 3 CTE, wife and daughter suing NFL/Patriots on: September 22, 2017, 02:29:27 pm
This why Congress should introduce legislation banning tackle football.

The most I can say for that idea is that it would truly unite the country like never before.
81  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Favorite New York city on: September 22, 2017, 12:49:14 pm
82  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Austroposting Is Bad on: September 22, 2017, 10:35:35 am
At appears Tender and me reached an understanding. The restriction is lifted.

Didn't take as long as the Dutch government formation

But what's REALLY important here is that the Dutch government formation has now lasted 149 days longer than the Austrian government formation did after the 2008 election!!!
83  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Gameplay Thread on: September 21, 2017, 09:55:22 pm
Quote
The Treaty of Prague

1. All men under arms shall evacuate any occupied territory with all due speed.

2. The Royal Family of the House of Hapsburg will be immediately escorted to the Hapsburg realms as free persons

3. German Bohemia and Moravia are hereby ceded to the Kingdom of Prussia.

4. 60% of the Electorate of Saxony (about the same as Concert of Vienna Saxony) are hereby ceded to the Kingdom of Prussia.

5. The dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire is hereby nullified, without automatic incorporation of states that left. Any member of the German League who wants to leave the Holy Roman Empire shall be free to do so.

6. An independent Zagreb-based Duchy of Pannonia shall be created and placed under transitional Ottoman oversight.

7. The Habsburg Realms shall grant economic concessions to the Ottoman Empire, which shall be specified in separate agreement.

8. The Habsburg Realms and the Ottoman Empire shall cooperate on containing the plague.

9.  All sides hereby pledge not to intervene militairly in the Russian Civil War.

10. The Habsburg Realms pledges not to interfere with Polish-Lithuanian internal affairs nor its
relations with Prussia and the Ottoman Empire.

Francis, Holy Roman Emperor


The Empire recommends the Chairman of the League of Neutrality to mediate any disputes immediately rising from this settlement and will release a statement on the importance and necessity of peace upon conclusion of treaty.
84  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: September 21, 2017, 06:28:42 pm
I just had a nice nightime ride/walk in the woods




I was concerned after noticing a little something strange, and further analysis confirmed my suspicions. You better watch your back Kal:



Wow, Tender is ready to do anything just to get me to unlock his thread.

Nah, he was just on the lookout for any immigrants who might be taking a roundabout route to sneak into Austria.
85  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: September 21, 2017, 05:16:33 pm
Anyone free?

Biggest free power is Spain. I'm not sure if Revolutionary Poland is playable, but that's probably the most important non-player.

There are also several medium powers around; the papacy was played earlier, for one. EDIT: as said below, the Netherlands is probably the most influential non-polish one.
86  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Democrats: Which GOP President do you dislike more? on: September 20, 2017, 01:43:14 pm
God, imagine Trump's reaction to 9/11...somehow I doubt his approval ratings would have been in the 90s like W's were.
87  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Gameplay Thread on: September 18, 2017, 10:42:43 pm
As representative of both the Hapsburg Empire and the Imperial League, I am willing to accept Venice as a mediating party.
88  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: College Football pick'em 2017- Gameplay and scoring thread on: September 18, 2017, 06:40:57 pm
September 21

Temple at South Florida


September 22

Virginia at Boise State

Utah at Arizona


September 23

NC State at Florida State

Texas Tech at Houston

Texas A&M at Arkansas

Ohio at Eastern Michigan

UCF at Maryland

Alabama at Vanderbilt

USC at California

TCU at Oklahoma State  (T C U   E X P O S E D)

Toledo at Miami(FL)

Duke at North Carolina

Louisiana Tech at South Carolina

Cincinnati at Navy

Michigan at Purdue

Syracuse at LSU

Mississippi State at Georgia (Kirby Smart is a mediocre Saban-clone and Dan Mullen is a very good coach. When in doubt go with the good coach. Also, Georgia against all odds loses the division in the Cocktail Party and order in maintained in the universe.)

Penn State at Iowa

Florida at Kentucky (This is the toughest one to me. I think Kentucky is underrated and will be pretty good this year, but 30 games in a row worth of history tell me Florida...If Kentucky wins it'll be by running the defense down and scoring in the 4th after the Florida defense gets tired while Florida has no points)

Southern Illinois at Memphis

Notre Dame at Michigan State (blegh, I don't want ND and I bet they'll play like crap but I'm just not ready to believe in Sparty again after last year)

Washington at Colorado

UCLA at Stanford
89  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: September 18, 2017, 10:34:28 am
PASSED the Bar Exam the ugly way, by an average of all the parts, but still...a pass. I won't be fired, I'll get to put a pretentious esq. after my name, and I'll be able to sleep again. Its been a good morning.
90  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: September 17, 2017, 10:24:17 pm
Florida Bar Exam results tomorrow. The stress for the results has honestly been as bad as the pre-test stress was; I haven't slept well in days. If I don't pass I MAY be fired? It's not quite clear and I don't think my office is even quite sure...
91  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: September 17, 2017, 02:23:50 am
So much of what I've been writing is not pertinent to Kal's stated concerns and after that last message I clearly can't keep working for now. I'll post what I have that I think IS relevant to those and if there are any other issues or PMs that might be relevant, those can always be posted later.

I sat back and waited for terms, preparing by going over some other terms from wars Austria lost.  They wanted the Kingdoms of Bohemia and Croatia in their entirety. Plus, any attempt to negotiate would mean upping their demand to include Hungary as well. It had taken very very little time in research to figure out what the loss of Bohemia would mean. Bohemia was by population larger than the Kingdom of Hungary and more importantly was an HRE elector. The last time the Hapsburgs lost the Bohemian vote, they lost the HRE crown for the first time in centuries. Losing Bohemia (especially if the Prussians intended to annex the Electorate of Saxony) would mean permanently losing the Holy Roman Empire to Prussia.

This gets me to one of Kal's points: I put a lot of stock into the difference between the monarch and the Monarchy. If it came down to it, I was perfectly prepared to see Joseph die to protect the Monarchy. (On a side note, I was completely sure that choice wouldn't happen; if forced to REALLY make that decision in-character I would have given in and agreed to anything to protect my son.) The Hapsburg Monarchy would not be "essentially decapitated" by losing a 14 year old boy. It WOULD be decapitated by losing the Empire and the crown jewel of that Empire. My decision on those peace terms was entirely based on the terms presented. The only "plan or strategy" I can think of that might have influenced my decisionmaking was the theoretical plan to dismember France...a plan that I would know about in-character since Lumine's peace proposal mentioned the partial return of Lorraine after France was defeated and partitioned.

When I began making military orders, I don't think anything I knew or used could have come from secret knowledge; I left soon after the turn began. I tried to look at the situation from a purely objective standpoint. I made maps. And while I tried to think of things from the enemy perspective, I don't think any of it used particularly secret knowledge.

As for the willingness of the Austrians to act, I REALLY had to work at it just to keep them from murdering me and to keep Austria from immediately falling apart. I have no doubt that if I was unlucky and hadn't had the huge boost of the HRE dissolution I would have lost this turn. I said as much to my allies in the time between last turn's end and Lumine's HRE announcement.
92  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: September 17, 2017, 01:24:00 am
Fwiw, I wouldn't say I attacked Dereich's "conduct". It would be utterly idiotic for me or Lumine to threathen to quit/appeal to a moderator because Dereich choose to continue fighting. He's totally entitled to this, and we're not entitled to expect things being made easier for us.

I'll however stand by my opinion the Austria switch was a serious error which, even with no ill-will here, had to do damage to the game setup and I've explained why.

I've never been a fan of a losing player being able to rejoin immediately after suffering a game-over, because it makes things less competitive and less real. However, jumping from one country to other in the middle, especially a country belonging to other camp, is extremely problematic and I've explained why I feel so.

Since I'm still awake and this is immediately relevant, I'll post this part now.

I'll start by saying I had already been looking to switch countries before TimTurner left Austria. Portugal was small, my options to act were limited, and I unable to influence discussions I was uncomfortable with. Plus, the Marquis de Pombal was so effective in his actions in IRL Portugal, all of my non-military moves consisted of "Do X exactly like Pombal did IRL." At first, my intention was to go for Spain, a major power who was basically sitting unused.

After the death of Maria Theresa, TimTurner decided he was no longer going to play as Austria. Already looking for another option, Austria looked very appealing very fast. My initial thought was that I was going to be playing as Joseph himself, forced to negotiate my way out of captivity. When I got the green light from Spamage, I learned that I'd instead be playing as Francis. It made sense; Joseph was a 14 year old child and, as I quickly learned, wouldn't even be eligible to be King of Hungary until a Diet was called.

Just addressing your complaint about the problems from switching, I'm at a loss for what I should have done. I had expressed a desire to leave Portugal. I would have stayed if I had to, but frankly looking for new and innovative places to invade the French with little resistance while watching Europe get completely remade wouldn't be very fun and I wasn't looking forward to it. If Spain HAD fallen vacant and I had moved, I would have had the same knowledge and probably would have joined the war for one side or another. Would THAT have been just as serious an issue? Would ANY switch have been a serious error or should I have been forced to stay within the alliance?

Going through my logs and PMs I can't find anything in particular that would involve me using knowledge I learned from playing as Portugal. But of course that issue can wait; you can read them and judge for yourself once I finish writing everything up.
93  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: September 16, 2017, 11:50:17 pm
As my conduct has been called into question, I intend to defend my actions. Needless to say, I believe that everything I have done makes sense both in and out of game and is perfectly justified.

However, as I've been busy at a football game all day and my post is stretching longer, it'll have to wait until tomorrow when I can finish it.
94  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: College Football pick'em 2017- Gameplay and scoring thread on: September 16, 2017, 11:30:55 pm
And South Carolina...never believe in Muschump.
95  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: September 15, 2017, 11:18:00 pm
Whaaaat? You withdrawing is the most shocking development yet! Why have you decided to leave?
96  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rick Scott ignored calls from Hollywood, FL nursing home where folks died on: September 15, 2017, 10:10:56 pm
I smell BS. Why would they call the governor instead of the police?

A few days before the hurricane he did a big conference call with all the hospital executives in the state. During the conversation he gave out that number, which he said was his personal cell number, and ASKED them to call him if they had problems; he said he'd do his best to get the state on their problems. The police have to field calls from everyone; why WOULDN'T you turn to the higher authority who promised specifically to help you?
97  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: September 15, 2017, 05:42:26 pm
Eh. The death toll in the 7 Years War was 850,000 minimum. We're still far from matching that. Let's see what this looks like when it ends, THEN condemn ourselves as brutal maniacs.
98  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: September 15, 2017, 04:25:42 pm
What do you have to be nervous about? The nerves are all on my side.
99  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Civil War Series III, Yellow Turban Rebellion (184-205 AD) on: September 15, 2017, 12:47:44 pm
The noble Han, of course. They did nothing wrong! The fault lay entirely on the heads of the Eunuchs, and Dong Zhou, and Lu Bu, and Li Ru, and Yuan Shao of course, and Yuan Shu, and who can forget Li Jue and the generals, and Sun Ce naturally, but also...
100  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Gameplay Thread on: September 15, 2017, 11:00:16 am
In light of the situation in Poland and the current turbulence within the Empire, I will be considering proposals for reform to submit to the Diet for consideration once the current trouble has concluded. Interested Princes and Imperial Subjects are invited to submit proposals to maintain and strengthen the wellbeing of princes and subjects,plans to rationalize the Imperial government to achieve these goals, or grievances relating to the same.
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