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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: DENMARK - 2019 election on: March 08, 2019, 02:23:35 am
What would be the type of voter moving from DPP to SD?

From what I have heard and read, right now itís mostly women with a short or no education.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Tulsi Gabbard on: March 07, 2019, 06:07:52 pm
Very simple. There is a difference between opposing intervention in Syria and actively supporting and promoting Assad and talking about how great a leader he is.

She doesn't support Assad. She has criticized him for being a dictator.

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Also the fact that sheís a staunch supporter of a far-right, nativist, theocratic, anti-Muslim party in India is a legitimate concern.

She's not a BJP supporter. She also met with Congress Party members.

I seem to recall that at one point she was going on about how Assad was going to bring democracy to Syria, which is naÔvetť at best, covering up for dictators at worst.

I in general hate whataboutism, but until the Mister Bone Saw carved up khashoggi, everyone in the West treated him as a liberal reformer, even while he committed war crimes in Yemen far worse than any Assad have committed, at home he execute Shia clergy, whose only crime was objecting to the second class status of the Saudi Shias (while the Assads had expanded the rights of Syrian Palestinians* and Syrian Kurds). Yes if Gabbard believed Assad was pro-Democrat, she was a sucker,  it in that case sheís one sucker among many in Congress, and she at least wasnít in the pocket of a Regime, who funded anti-American terrorism.

The truth is that Assad is not a nice man, but thereís little reason to single him out negative among Arab leaders for human right issue.

*Syrian Palestinians have the most freedoms among the Palestinian diaspora in the Arab World, and it was Assad senior, who gave them it.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Does the Trump Family's nepotism and presidential profiteering bother you? on: March 07, 2019, 02:26:52 pm
No I think itís great that the Trumps doesnít camouflage this pretty normal (but taken to next level) behavior for American politicians.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ilhan Omar accuses Israel Hawks of having an Allegiance to a Foreign Country on: March 07, 2019, 02:19:52 pm
I skimmed over all 8 pages here, and I see that not a single person (or the original article) quoted Representative Omar in full.  Her full quote was one further sentence.  I have to seriously wonder why, as far as I can tell, not a single news report has quoted her in full.  This is her full quote:

"ďI want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country. I want to ask why is it okay for me to to talk about the influence of the NRA, or the fossil fuel industry or big pharma and not talk about a powerful lobbying group that is influencing policy."

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/any-discussion-of-rep-ilhan-omar-should-begin-should-start-with-trump-1452739139609

It seems to me that the House Democratic Leadership wanting to censure her for essentially questioning the inability to criticize AIPAC, is the best evidence she could have that what she says is true.

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Representative Juan Vargas also provides further evidence:



I support Israel's right to exist and the U.S defense of Israel's right to exist (I certainly don't support the terrorist Netanyahu) but, in a democracy, questioning support for government policy is unacceptable?

To make sure that Vargas' full quote comes up, this is the second part: "Israel has and remains a stalwart ally of the United States because of our countriesí shared interests and values. I condemn her remarks and believe she should apologize for her offensive comments." (2/2)

Unlike with leaving off Omar's second sentence, this second tweet in no way alters the context of the first tweet.

Well no one have quoted her, because by now whatever she said is irrelevant.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: DENMARK - 2019 election on: March 07, 2019, 02:16:05 pm
1) I'm guessing there is no real desire for the SPP to rejoin a coalition with S then after the last time round?

2) is Alternative going to be a guaranteed prop for the left, or will they demand something wacky? same for ō.

3) I know D's current leader has doubled down on populism in regards to immigration/cultural issues, but where does she stand economically in the party?

1) Any reasonable person would believe so, but no theyíre hungry for a new round in government. Which show us a important fact about SPP that they prefer power to popularity, which have always been a plus in my book.

2) Alternative will do something wacky, if LLR becomes PM again, it will be because of them.

3) I dislike callling SDs view on immigration for populist, because Alternative and the Social Liberals pro-immigration policy are every bit as much populism as DPP, itís just populism for a different voter segment. I would say that SD, SPP, Venstre, Conservative and to lesser extent Unity List have immigration policies which are ideological coherent or pragmatic in nature. While the other parties either lack one (LA) or have a immigration policy building on emotions.

As for Mette Frederiksen, sheís to the left economical in SD. But thatís not completely meaningful, as itís not a major internal battlefield in SD. In fact what make her unique in the party is the fact, that while she forced a consensus on the party, she have done so in dialogue with the MPs, so thereís relative little dissent among the MPs and pretty much next to none on economics.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Klobuchar mistreated staff 'left them in tears'; was rebuked by Harry Reid on: March 07, 2019, 05:29:06 am
I decided to read some of the complains, and I must say in the manner she behave, her campaign are likely to self-destruct, if not for any other reason that her hostile behavior, make her employers connect dirt on her. Some of you people may not see this as a big deal, but a candidate who doesnít create personal loyalty to herself, but instead make her employer hide evidence of her behavior. Thatís a recipe for scandal hitting her and when they hit, more will follow.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Study finds that attractive people have more liberal views on: March 06, 2019, 09:14:49 pm
Alternative title:

Study says that people more likely to have one night stands are more likely to be pro-abortion.

Stay classy.

Try to read the article, because itís what it says in more diplomatic manners.

No, I read the article. You are simply being a judgemental twit.

Well Iím judgemental, but I donít have a problem with abortion, and the conclusions in the article seem pretty obvious, and pretty much said what I summed it up as, what it didnít say was that liberals are more attractive than conservatives.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Jim Jordan uses "$" to spell Tom Steyer's name in tweet on: March 06, 2019, 08:39:22 pm
Guess what? This isn't anti-Semitic either. Using a dollar sign to assail a billionaire hedge fund manager doesn't have to be a reflection of some deep-seated anti-Jewish bias.

Also, Steyer is a practising Episcopalian. Not that it matters.


Yeah, why is this here lol. Surely there are more important things for USGD?

Yeah, because the real Nazis never ever ever gassed any "half-Jews", and Stormfront and their ilk never ever ever identify people who aren't technically Jewish as Jews.

They did in fact not place half-Jews, or as the Nazi would have called them Mischlings of 1st Degree, in the death camps, you needed to have 3 Jewish grandparent to count as Jewish. Mischlings was banned from serving in the SS or marrying other Mischlings and suffered under a lot of other discrimination. But they wasnít executed for being Jewish.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: DENMARK - 2019 election on: March 06, 2019, 07:47:31 pm
 I'm interested in the Social Democrats chances and their relations to the DPP. Do they basically agree with the DPP on the immigration issue, and would the DPP give support to a minority Social Democrat government?

The main reason for the potential cooperation is a historical good personal relationship between the leadership in the two parties. But also that DPP voters are very tired of Venstre. SD and DPP doesnít basically agree, but SD are only slightly to the left of Venstre on immigration, and much more in line with how DPP sell themselves on economic issue. Beside that DPP have a interest in keeping the Social Liberals away from influence, and SD are incredible tired of the Social Liberals right now, think it will be healthy to sideline them right now.
What would you say was behind this antipathy between SD and Radikale Venstre?

The latter are a bunch of smug moralizing selfserving a-holes. Of course they have always been that way, but under the last government the took it a step too far.
10  General Discussion / History / Re: Why did Queen Anne rule alone? on: March 06, 2019, 07:29:56 pm
Because George of Denmark had zero interest in becoming king, they pretty much offered to crown him king consort, if he converted to Anglicanism, and he didnít care.
11  General Discussion / History / Re: Other than Cheney, has any VP been relevant to the actual Administration? on: March 06, 2019, 07:18:58 pm
Biden seem to have been the work horse of Obama Administration, but on the other side he seem to have had few visions or goals of his own, that he wanted to implement.
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Group: Iraq is torturing children to coerce confessions on: March 06, 2019, 07:08:45 pm
https://apnews.com/bf1f76037fff497898eec73fffae2663
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Iraq and the Kurdish regional government have charged hundreds of children with terrorism for alleged affiliation with the Islamic State group, often using torture to coerce confessions, Human Rights Watch said Wednesday.

In a report, the New York-based group estimated that Iraqi and Kurdish authorities were holding approximately 1,500 children for alleged IS affiliation in detention at the end of 2018. It said the prosecutions are often based on dubious accusations and forced confessions obtained through torture.

The children are then sentenced to prison in hasty and unfair trials, HRW said.

This type of behavior is exactly what lead to ISIS emerging in the first place. Iraqi forces and their American handlers harassed normal Sunni civilians with little due process to fill up those prisons. Repeating those same mistakes will just boil up the community for another uprising down the road

Without funding from the Gulf States, itís unlikely that a new uprising will be as ugly as the last one. Also I think thereís limits of how forgiving we can expect the Shia and Kurds to be. Yes it would be better, if they didnít do this, but even compared to the Sunni Arab, when they was the nicest to the Shia and Kurds, neither the Kurds or the Shia are a tenth as bad.
So oppressing those most hurt by ISIS is okay? The fact remains that most Sunnis didnít and still donít support these oppressors, with many participating in armed resistance on the down low.

While this is very sad and all that, tens of thousands of Yemenite children are dying in famine/ epidemic right now, which Saudi Arabia have active created with American support. Maybe USA should focus on the much worse things it could change more or less by presidential decree.
13  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is Satanism a Religion? on: March 06, 2019, 07:01:25 pm
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So clearly yes
14  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of Friedrich Nietzsche on: March 06, 2019, 06:59:14 pm
Iím a religious person, but I still find him interesting, and while I find the HP versus FF dichotomy ridiculous, I would call him FF as he never did anything which made him a HP and most of the negative aspect of his philosophy (outside the atheism) are not part of it, but bastardisation of it by Nazis, Objectivists and clueless nihilists.
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Group: Iraq is torturing children to coerce confessions on: March 06, 2019, 06:49:23 pm
https://apnews.com/bf1f76037fff497898eec73fffae2663
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Iraq and the Kurdish regional government have charged hundreds of children with terrorism for alleged affiliation with the Islamic State group, often using torture to coerce confessions, Human Rights Watch said Wednesday.

In a report, the New York-based group estimated that Iraqi and Kurdish authorities were holding approximately 1,500 children for alleged IS affiliation in detention at the end of 2018. It said the prosecutions are often based on dubious accusations and forced confessions obtained through torture.

The children are then sentenced to prison in hasty and unfair trials, HRW said.

This type of behavior is exactly what lead to ISIS emerging in the first place. Iraqi forces and their American handlers harassed normal Sunni civilians with little due process to fill up those prisons. Repeating those same mistakes will just boil up the community for another uprising down the road

Without funding from the Gulf States, itís unlikely that a new uprising will be as ugly as the last one. Also I think thereís limits of how forgiving we can expect the Shia and Kurds to be. Yes it would be better, if they didnít do this, but even compared to the Sunni Arab, when they was the nicest to the Shia and Kurds, neither the Kurds or the Shia are a tenth as bad.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: DENMARK - 2019 election on: March 06, 2019, 06:32:17 pm
  I'm interested in the Social Democrats chances and their relations to the DPP. Do they basically agree with the DPP on the immigration issue, and would the DPP give support to a minority Social Democrat government?

The main reason for the potential cooperation is a historical good personal relationship between the leadership in the two parties. But also that DPP voters are very tired of Venstre. SD and DPP doesnít basically agree, but SD are only slightly to the left of Venstre on immigration, and much more in line with how DPP sell themselves on economic issue. Beside that DPP have a interest in keeping the Social Liberals away from influence, and SD are incredible tired of the Social Liberals right now, think it will be healthy to sideline them right now.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Study finds that attractive people have more liberal views on: March 06, 2019, 06:25:13 pm
Alternative title:

Study says that people more likely to have one night stands are more likely to be pro-abortion.

Stay classy.

Try to read the article, because itís what it says in more diplomatic manners.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Tulsi Gabbard on: March 06, 2019, 06:21:26 pm
Horrified that anyone could support her.
Whats horrific about wanting peace?
Peace with Hitler was wrong. Peace with Assad is wrong.
what do you want us to then invade syria? oh I know you want us to continue fudning terriorists and Isis cause they are so much better than Assad.
Yes. The United States should intervene in Syria. This is not a hard moral decision if you have a conscience.

So do plan for USA to run the death camps and slave markets for Alawite, Christians and other minorities, or do plan for creating private versions of these instead?
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Tulsi Gabbard on: March 06, 2019, 05:12:06 pm
It puzzles me that certain sectors of the Left like her for her foreign policy ideas despite them being firmly rooted in paleoconservatism (firmly pro-Israel, pro-drone, not opposed to torture, bizarrely anti-Islam) as opposed to principled left-wing anti-interventionism. The fact that plenty of right-wing reactionaries are in love with her isn't without foundation. She's also like Kamala Harris in the sense that she currently has a lot of progressive stances but her recent past is filled with a bunch of problematic crap (homophobia, Hare Krishna, BJP connections).

HP. Trash candidate.

Personally I have never gotten the pro-Islamic orientalism the Democrats developed after the terror attack in 2001. But whatever I feel about it on a personal level, I don't really think there's any or have been any significant audience for it among their electorate. As such I don't think it will really be a problem for Gabbard in the general election. Also I doubt many American will care that Gabbard is pro-BJP.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: DENMARK - 2019 election on: March 06, 2019, 05:03:20 pm
I think it's time for this topic. Elections will be held on 17 June. Looks like left wing coalition will win. Maybe forum Danes knows more.

My thoughts on the issue, and be aware that I'm a partisan hack.

I think left-wing victory is pretty much given. Lars LÝkke Rasmussen, while a competent politician with very low morales, feels like he's really really tired, and he's pretty much the only one on the right fighting for a victory.

Unless he comes back into his fighting spirit, we may very see the right being left as smoking ruins, and everything indicates that Venstre will break out into a civil war the moment LLR is gone.

Of course the Left have it own conflicts, but the Social Democratic and SSP relative friendly relationship with DPP and the interest in all three parties in keeping the Social Liberals political irrelevant, will likely result in a relative stable Social Democratic one party government. 
21  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is it Anti-Semetic to hate only one particular group of Jews? on: March 06, 2019, 03:41:56 pm
hating bankers but not hating regular Jews.

Huh


I donít really know what to say. I mean most normal people donít really make the connection bankers equals Jews.
22  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: should a lawyer representing Harvey Weinstein be removed as Dean at Harvard on: March 06, 2019, 03:36:52 pm
Arguing that lawyers who represent people we presume to be guilty are deserving of condemnation seems worryingly close to arguing that people we presume to be guilty are undeserving of legal representation.

Yes we risk rich people ending up as badly represented as poor people are.
23  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: should a lawyer representing Harvey Weinstein be removed as Dean at Harvard on: March 06, 2019, 12:24:16 pm
Everyone deserve a lawyer, but this is not some principle case, he has taken because it's important judicial issue. This is a Dean at a university, at a time where there's a lot of focus on sexual assaults on universities and the universities not treating these with the seriousness it deserve, taking a client for a large sum of money, who are accused of not just sexual assault, but also using his power to put women in a position, where they could choose between their continued career or his advances.

As such I have a lot of sympathy for the people who object to their Dean taking such a case. This is not just your typical SJW crap. This is a Dean of Harvard showing he lack good judgement in what signals he sends to his students. And no the signal he send is not that everyone deserve a lawyer.
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion: 2017 and onwards, Mayhem on: March 06, 2019, 12:02:07 pm
Ftr it was an honest question - I'm certainly not endorsing May's handling of Brexit...

I get why you don't like Corbyn, if he isn't a anti-semitist, he's pretty much a apoligist for them, he's also pretty worthless in general. But the entire Brexit mess start in the Conservative Party and ends in the Conservative Party. Yes it would have been nice if Corbyn had fought for EU in the referendum. But that one issue I can't really blame Corbyn for saying, that it was a Conservative mess and they could clean it up on their own. The only way we could blame this on Corbyn is if we says that it's his job to save May's deal, which she never discussed with Labour.
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of David Cameron on: March 06, 2019, 11:54:58 am
Worthless Etonian pig f**ker, pretty much the worst British PM in modern British history. Together with Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg and the rest of the Tories who have gone to Eton, he's a good argument, why Eton College should be bombed closed and all Old Etonian should be send to a gulag reeducation camp in Queen Elizabeth Land.
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