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26  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Utah's 3rd congressional district special election, 2017 on: November 07, 2017, 01:49:24 am
Bennett, because Kathie Allen won't win and I want to see how well the UUP can do.
27  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Civil War Series: Spanish Civil War on: November 07, 2017, 01:45:40 am

The Spanish Republican government, and the Abraham Lincoln Brigade!
28  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Saudi Arabia Says It Intercepts Missile Close To Capital on: November 05, 2017, 02:50:28 am
Convient for the Crown Prince then, because he was purging his political opponents at the same time this happened
29  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: CO-Gov: Tancredo is in on: November 04, 2017, 07:12:58 pm
Why is there a poll showing Fascist Tom being competitive against Jared Polis?

Trump comes up with better nicknames. That oneís pretty lame.
Terrorist Tom? Tyrant Tom? Terrible Tom?
30  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: FL Gov: Latvala accused by six women of harassment. on: November 04, 2017, 06:36:53 pm
JACK THE GRIPPER

Also works for JFK, since he was known as "Jack" sometimes.

Anyway, this basically means Putnam is the 2018 gubernatorial nominee, right?
31  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Should Ireland be reunited or stay as is on: November 03, 2017, 11:56:41 am
Whatever the Irish people want, both regular Irish and Northern Irish.
32  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: The Iron Lady - 1995 General Election on: November 02, 2017, 09:17:46 pm
I've always wanted to make an "independent Deseret" alternate election, but the results I see in every alt-election here has made me not want to do it.
33  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: OH: Rampant Sexual Harassment on: November 02, 2017, 03:07:15 am
In the wake of Senator Cliff Hite's resignation, state house leaders will be releasing a document detailing two-year's worth of sexual harassment claims at the state house. Term-limited Rep. Mike Henne (R-Clayton) is know to be featured. Other members are as of yet unknown. Henne plans on finishing his term.

Oh I missed this!

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/28/yformer-ohio-senator-cliff-hite-repeatedly-sought-sex-legislative-employee-despite-refusals-memo-say/809267001/

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Hite, 63, told the woman that he had an affair before, he had a condo and no one would ever know, according to an Oct. 19 memo from her employer that The Enquirer obtained through a records' request. Hite, a Republican from Findlay, tried to convince her to have sex with him for more than an hour. Hite shared intimate details of his sex life with his wife.

"I'm a grown man with needs," Hite told the woman. Those needs included oral sex, according to the allegations. The woman refused eight or nine times.

jesus lol

"Party of Family Values"

What a F**king joke.

My thoughts exactly. But aren't you a Republican?

Though, that said, it can't be assumed Democrats aren't also guilty. Sexual harassment in state capitals is a huge prroblem. Sacramento's sexual harassment problems were recently featured in some article I read, and it's obviously heavily Democratic over there.
I am honestly surprised that I haven't heard anything about sexual harassment in legislatures over here in Utah recently.
34  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: CO-Gov: Tancredo is in on: November 01, 2017, 03:01:53 am
YASS!
Why am I not surprised...
35  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is this a justifiable reason to support LGBT normality as a Christian? on: October 31, 2017, 11:36:37 pm
So I'm a Mormon, neocon, but I am 100% behind LGBT normality, and I don't understand the "Christian" position on it. The argument that convinced me was this:

How many men throughout history and even today, have got married to a woman due to societal pressure and become abusive, all because in his subconscious, he hates her because she's not a man?

Same thing goes for repressed lesbians as well.

Being in denial does horrible thing to people. It's nothing someone should have to suffer through their whole life. Young LGBT committing suicide over society hating it is something else that bothers me to no end.
Hey fellow Mormon!

I happen to be a Mormon, liberal (but hawkish and almost neocon on foreign policy), and I support LGBT normality as well. Not for the same reasons you do, but know that you're not alone in being a pro-LGBT Mormon.
36  General Discussion / History / Re: Bryan and the South? on: October 31, 2017, 11:27:54 pm
If William Jennings Bryan was more liberal than his Democratic predecessors had been more conservative, then how come the south supported him over his opponents?

Politics is more complex then liberal versus Conservative in that era or any era. It was and frankly still is in a lot of ways, a tribalistic affair. Vermont voted for any Republican with 65% to 75% for one hundred years, whether they were liberal or Conservative. Republicans were the party of White Yankee Protestants and you don't get more, white, more Yankee or more protestant than Vermont in the late 19th century.

There were two wings within the Southern Democratic Parties. They had a pro-business bourbon wing and populist/progressive wing. WJB represented the ascendance of the populists within the Party and the long term defeat of the Bourbons. This set the stage for Wilson and then FDR. But during the Bilbo generation, which came of age just over the ten years proceeding the 1896 election, you had the most militant of unreconstructed Southerners, the most racist Southerners ever and the most anti-Republican Southerners. "Republicans afterall burned down daddy's barn, and killed your uncle at Shiloh". Of course I left out to epithets that likely would have been in front of Republicans in that line.

It is no accident that only once this generation started dying off did Republicans start to make headway in the South, first in the 1920's and again in the 1950's.

Indeed. Note that Mormons/Utahns used to view themselves as so Democratic (in a tribalistic sense) that they voted 82% for Bryan in 1896. It was such a lopsided result that Mormon leaders, in an attempt to honor the promise they made for statehood, literally divided congregations down the pews, half being assigned as Democrats, half as Republicans. At least, according to popular legend here in Utah. Everyone has a grand-pappy or great-grandpappy whose family was supposedly assigned to be a Republican or a Democrat.
37  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Alternate 1924 election on: October 31, 2017, 11:13:46 pm
Still Fighting Bob.
38  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Civil War Series: American Civil War on: October 31, 2017, 11:13:05 pm
I have ancestors on both sides, but where I come down on it is that I believe the Union was executing God's will by fighting the Confederacy.
39  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: VA lieutenant gubernatorial election: Justin Fairfax on: October 31, 2017, 02:51:26 am
Did EW Jackson lose because of racism?
He lost because he was seen as a lunatic theocrat, basically.

And Northam was able to coast to victory without even trying because of that.
40  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: The Iron Lady - 1991 Conservative Leadership on: October 31, 2017, 01:27:10 am
Some men just want to watch the world burn. Caine.
41  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Alternate Virginia gubernatorial election, 2017 on: October 31, 2017, 01:19:22 am
Perriello would be awesome, and in this case he could actually win!
42  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Civil War Series: Taiping Rebellion on: October 29, 2017, 11:13:42 pm
The radical Christians.
43  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: VA-GOV 2017: Primary result: Northam vs Gillespie (General election: Nov 7th) on: October 29, 2017, 01:32:11 am
I don't get this attitude of "oh 2013 was off so that's going to be Ed's #" the situation on the ground is completely different

Simple:

Gillespie is clearly better at branching out than Da' C69ch, and Northam doesn't seem to be running nearly as high an energy campaign as Fast Terry.

This evens out the playing field again.



Northam is probably one of the laziest gubernatorial campaigners in modern history. It's almost ridiculous how low energy he is, to use a Trumpian term.

Can't tell if you're serious.
From what I've heard both in 2013 and in 2017, I'm completely serious.
44  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: VA-GOV 2017: Primary result: Northam vs Gillespie (General election: Nov 7th) on: October 29, 2017, 01:20:03 am
I don't get this attitude of "oh 2013 was off so that's going to be Ed's #" the situation on the ground is completely different

Simple:

Gillespie is clearly better at branching out than Da' C69ch, and Northam doesn't seem to be running nearly as high an energy campaign as Fast Terry.

This evens out the playing field again.



Northam is probably one of the laziest gubernatorial campaigners in modern history. It's almost ridiculous how low energy he is, to use a Trumpian term.
45  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ideal Bernie Running Mate? on: October 29, 2017, 12:30:06 am
His wife who bankrupted that college
I know you're just trolling, but he wouldn't pick someone from the same state.
46  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Can anyone verify these claims about Gadhafi's Libya? on: October 29, 2017, 12:27:16 am
Nice if true. Doesn't change the fact that he was a bloodthirsty tyrant who swore to drown the streets of rebel cities in blood.
47  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Romney's cousin is an ex-Mormon on: October 29, 2017, 12:11:17 am
This is literally 5 years old, why was it revived? It's not relevant whatsoever.
48  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: UT-SEN: Hatch out, Romney in? on: October 28, 2017, 11:14:21 am
If the UTGOP really wants a a Romney, they should honestly just run Josh.
Josh Romney wants to be Governor of Utah, not Senator. He's got a relatively young family so it works out better that way.
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Days after activists sued, Georgiaís election server was wiped clean on: October 27, 2017, 05:14:42 pm
Russia must have hacked it.

It's funny how you accuse Dems of blaming Russia for everything, but literally no one before you even brought it up in this topic. Well, except for the "Commie regimes" comment earlier, but that's different from modern Russia.

You seem to be more obsessed with the topic than Dems are.

Did you just come out of an 11 month coma? Lol.
I meant on this specific topic, on this particular forum.
50  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: UT-SEN: Hatch out, Romney in? on: October 27, 2017, 02:50:26 pm
Donít forget he ran and almost beat ted Kennedy in 1994.

I don't think the Dems have their hopes too high to win a Utah Senate seat...

No Democrat can beat Romney in Utah. It's that simple.
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