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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Fake Twitter account accuses Dem Senator of sexual assault. on: November 17, 2017, 07:08:22 pm
The unfortunate thing is that the wave of genuine allegations could reasonably give rise to a wave of fabricated ones from the Deplorables. "Believe women" is sadly kind of exploitable politically.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary's non-appearance at the Javits Center on: November 08, 2017, 07:22:18 pm
Hillary came unglued and wasn't ready for prime time.  Or post-prime time, as the case turned out.

If she became this unglued losing to Trump, how emotionally stable a President would she have been?  Having the emotional makeup to be President involves being able to deliver bad news, even devastating news, and deliver it when it happens.

Her supporters would have been devastated, but that's the name of the game when you're vested in a campaign that comes up short.  They'd have gotten over it.  If she intended to challenge results, she could have made a statement at 2 am stating that she was reviewing her options, or something like that.  I believe she was too unhinged to make a public appearance, period.

That's how she'll be remembered; too unglued to concede.

Evidence please, sh-tstain.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will the #BanAllMen movement hurt Democrats in 2020? on: November 05, 2017, 11:08:25 am
Yes, these kind of movements do hurt electorally. The sentiment of them, for those who care to actually listen, is not that off-base though. It's just that straight cis white men are often incapable of humbling themselves enough to see that it's possible they just might occasionally play into a regrettable culture that puts Others down. They put up such big blinders because, frankly, they're the most emotionally insecure voting block in the country.

I guess Obama was one of the few politicians who could get away with upholding the truth of all this without bruising the fragility of this key group. Being a man was a huge plus. And sadly it'll probably take another man to pull it off.

It's not the hashtags themselves that are hurting the Democratic Party. It's the sentiment behind them that is hurting the Democratic Party. The type of sentiment expressed in the quoted comment above. This is very representative of mainstream Democratic officialdom. Why on Earth would a white person want to vote for a party whose leaders believe this?

Because we should have some empathy and realize that yes, at times we have helped nurture a culture that is not so welcoming to others...? I have no idea why people get so defensive when they’re asked to reflect and improve.

But yeah, I admit it’s not the best politics. But it’s still what’s right and it’s still what needs to happen if we’re ever going to curb sexism/homophobia/racism/ableism/etc. in a meaningful way.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Will the DNC rigging revelation have any impact on the VA race? on: November 04, 2017, 01:43:32 pm
"Rigging."
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would Hillary Clinton reconsider running for president again in 2020? on: November 04, 2017, 01:42:42 pm
She's leading him in the hypothetical polls. The PPP poll released a couple of days ago had her beating him 48% to 42%. Again, in the only circumstance that I believe that she should run is if it is proven Russia hacked the vote.
Maybe if it is undeniably proven that she would have won Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin without literal forged ballots.  Anything less than that, and I don't think she should

Nothing is undeniable in Trump's America. These stupid f-ckwads would deny that the sky is blue if the winds required them to.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will the #BanAllMen movement hurt Democrats in 2020? on: November 04, 2017, 01:39:28 pm
Yes, these kind of movements do hurt electorally. The sentiment of them, for those who care to actually listen, is not that off-base though. It's just that straight cis white men are often incapable of humbling themselves enough to see that it's possible they just might occasionally play into a regrettable culture that puts Others down. They put up such big blinders because, frankly, they're the most emotionally insecure voting block in the country.

I guess Obama was one of the few politicians who could get away with upholding the truth of all this without bruising the fragility of this key group. Being a man was a huge plus. And sadly it'll probably take another man to pull it off.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Warren agrees that primary was rigged for Clinton on: November 04, 2017, 01:32:33 pm
Heh. Interesting strategy. She's wrong and has just alienated the core block of straight-thinking voters in the party. That'll be hard to overcome.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary's non-appearance at the Javits Center on: October 30, 2017, 10:51:07 pm
She would have appeared at the Javits Center. Hillary's venue was set up with express purpose of welcoming in the first female president under a shattered glass ceiling. Obama's huge outdoor venue in '08 was also something that went beyond the generic and was meant to capture a moment in history. Both were chosen with the understanding that their candidates were overwhelmingly more likely to win than not.

In Hillary's case, it wasn't so. But that was not the place to concede. It would have given off a vibe of total and complete hopelessness. The next morning in an understated location with a polished speech after the sun had risen was much more appropriate.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Retrospection on: October 29, 2017, 06:39:53 pm
The incredible thing is that Trump would still have won without Florida.  There would surely  be a Michigan recount circus until mid December, but Clinton would still have lost (on the off chance the recount flipped the outcome, the MI legislature would probably vote to assign the electors to Trump directly and then SCOTUS would have to rule on the validity of that move).

Well if Trump lost Florida that means his voters (rural whites) aren't turning out so he'd likely lose Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin as well.

Florida is a lot more conservative than
PA, MI, WI. In 2004 Bush won FL by 5% while losing the others. In 2008, Obama won FL by just 2.8% while winning PA by 10.3%, WI by 13.9%, and MI by 16.5%.



The last election was not about conservative/liberal.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Millennials Flock to the Mainstream Media on: October 22, 2017, 05:37:25 pm
sad and stupid generation, but i woudn't generalize, that's the liberal way...

You literally just did it twice.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor National Convention – Fall 2017 on: October 21, 2017, 11:46:25 am
Careful—one might almost get the impression that regional reduction hurt the game. Cheesy
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Fremont Voting Booth : October 2017 elections on: October 20, 2017, 01:08:56 pm

FOR SENATE (CLASS I)

[   ] Benjamin Harrison he is w ("Greedo the Hunter") of Washington
Independent - Federalist Party

[1] Siren of Nevada
Amazons of Themyscira - Peace Party

[7] Wulfric of Arizona
Free Soil Party - Independent

[2] Hillary Clinton of New York


[3] Bill Clinton of New York


[4] Chelsea Clinton of New York


[5] Charlotte Clinton Mezvinsky of New York


[6] Aiden Clinton Mezvinsky of New York



BALLOT MEASURE 1

Question: Should the proposed Congressional Procedure Amendment to the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia be ratified?
Text: [The full text of the amendment may be read here.]

[   ] YES

[   ] NO

[1] ABSTAIN


13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: October 2017 Federal Election on: October 20, 2017, 12:56:26 pm

PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF ATLASIA


[5] fhtagn/PiT (the Physicist)
Federalist Party



[4] Harry S Truman/Ascott
Labor Party



[2] LongLiveRock/MikeWells12
Peace Party



[1] LumineVonReuental/rpryor03
Independent



[3] Write-in: Harry S Truman/tmthforu94



[  ] None of the above



HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES - NINE SEATS



[2] Governor Illiniwek of Illinois
Labor Party



[7] Haslam2020 of Tennessee
Federalist Party



[4] JGibson of Illinois
Labor Party



[6] LouisvilleThunder of Indiana
Federalist Party



[9] North Carolina Yankee of North Carolina
Federalist Party



[3] Peebs of North Carolina
Labor Party



[8] Pessimistic Antineutrino of New Jersey
Federalist Party



[10] RFayette of California
Federalist Party



[5] thumb21 of England
Independent



[1] vivaportugalhabs of Kansas
Labor Party



[  ] Write-in:______________________________
-__________________



[  ] None of the above

14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders quits his Women's Convention Spot, to go to Puerto Rico instead on: October 20, 2017, 12:38:35 pm
hey guys, my name is santander and i seek validation on an obscure internet forum by deliberately posting contrarian and dumb things. please pay attention to me Sad
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump says he hopes Clinton runs again in 2020 on: October 17, 2017, 06:31:39 pm
I don't see why he wouldn't, Her scandals and health issues aren't going to fade away, and she's loathed by his base, the conservative base he needs to turn out and the "progressives" in the Democratic ranks.

In his mind it's a 10/10 would win again

WHAT F-CKING HEALTH ISSUES?

Christ. You create your own truths.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor National Convention – Fall 2017 on: October 09, 2017, 04:15:13 am
x HagridOfTheDeep, Former Chairperson of the Federalist Party
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Actually I have one last thing to say. (back lol) on: October 03, 2017, 12:02:34 am
You seem like a headcase.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: What is with on: October 01, 2017, 12:28:22 pm
all of the old people, some of which who deregistered and others who have been out of office for a long time now suddenly coming back and declaring that they know what is best when they have not been paying hardly any attention, if any at all (and looking through past threads does not count lol). (btw this isn't a dig at Oakvale/Potus as both advised me some in the feb - jun period). I do not see why people think they have a right to come back, especially after not caring about the game and/or actively calling others stupid and think that they should be in office. It is probably one of the stupidest dynamics I have seen since registering since June 2016.....fun hint: if you think you are going to save the game....you aren't, especially with old washed up ideas that have no relevance in modern atlasia.

I'm not going to save the game. I'm just going to vote against conservatives. <3
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Could Bernie Sanders have won the primaries if he was a woman? on: October 01, 2017, 11:52:53 am
If Bernie Sanders were a woman, she would have been vilified to hell and back again as soon as she started opening her mouth about single payer decades ago. She'd be a delusional harpy and public enemy number one. Having been treated that way for years, she would have naturally learned to be very guarded with the press. Her oratoratorical skills would not showcase a loud and bombastic straight-talking politician because her voice would be too "shrill" or whiny. She would not connect with audiences and people would come to the conclusion that there's just something about her that's off.

Up against this woman, Hillary Clinton's negatives appear far less stark and she is lauded for her successful tenure as secretary of state and seen as less of a raving lunatic because she's actually gotten things done (CHIP).

The former respected cabinet secretary wins in a rout. Martin O'Malley reaches 30% in the first few states but ultimately drops out.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Should Hillary Clinton run again in 2020? on: September 28, 2017, 02:25:46 pm
She shouldn't, but I'll support her 'til the end... and God knows she deserves it. Hillary Clinton is only "entitled" because she actually is entitled.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: September 25, 2017, 02:08:46 am
HagridOfTheDeep
Labor
Whatever Oregon is
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of JerryArkansas on: September 25, 2017, 01:59:38 am
He's turned into a really obnoxious SJW over the years.  HP.

So shameful to see progressives throw around "Social Justice Warrior" like it's an insult. This stuff does actually matter to people. I'm sure folks from many quarters would see the person you've become and call you a sad freak. That's not okay, and the people who'd be on your side are the ones you deride as "SJWs." Disappointing.
23  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Where do you guys stand on free will? on: September 23, 2017, 05:21:05 pm
I'm never sure why it matters because it still feels like we have it.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you remember 9/11? on: September 23, 2017, 12:44:08 pm
Yep, I was nine. It was grade four.

To compare, I was 24 and just finishing my masters when Donald Trump won the presidency.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Which President defined their decade the most since the 1950s on: September 20, 2017, 01:56:48 am
I can't help but feel like Bush perfectly captured, epitomized, and reflected the anti-terrorist, flag-rallying hysteria of the '00s. Maybe it's because I wasn't around for Reagan.
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