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2401  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Would a President Romney have won re-election in 2016? on: July 15, 2013, 08:32:10 pm
I think that a President Romney would have had a difficult time getting re-elected in 2016. I suspect that he would have angered the Tea Party faction of the Republican Party by compromising with the Democrats on Obamacare and the Bush-era tax cuts. I think that Romeny would have been challenged by a more conservative Republican such as Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee or Rick Santorum in the 2016 Republican primaries to the point that it would have weakened him by the time the fall campaign came along.
2402  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Vietnam if Nixon wins in '60 on: July 15, 2013, 08:22:38 pm
I think that an a scenerio where Nixon is elected in 1960 and re-elected in 1964 (or assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963 and suceeded by Vice-President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.) U.S. involvement in Vietnam would be similar to how it was during President Eisenhower's administration at least at first, but would still likely escalate to a major conflict by 1964 or 1965, possibly sooner if the coup against Diem still occurs in November of 1963. The events that led to U.S. involvement in Vietnam were already well in place long before 1960 and it would have been difficult to change course.
2403  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Alison Lundergan vs Mitch Mcconnell on: July 15, 2013, 07:51:03 pm
2404  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: How would the election of 1964 turned out had Goldwater voted for the CRA? on: July 15, 2013, 08:20:57 am
I believe Stevenson supported civil rights in an abstract sense, but he did pick two segregationist running mates, when asked about the issue said "civil rights are not very important," and if I'm remembering correctly implied that he thought Eisenhower was going too far sending the National Guard to integrate schools.
While granted that Stevenson's first running mate John Sparkman was a segregationist, his second running mate Estes Kefauver refused to sign the Southern Manifesto of 1956 (along with Al Gore Sr. and Lyndon Johnson) and voted in favor of the 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts. I do not know how Estes Kefauver would have voted on the 1964 Civil Rights Act had he lived past 1963 though.
2405  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: what was your first computer's operating system? on: July 12, 2013, 03:48:53 pm
The first computer my parents had was a Timex-Sinclair purchased around 1983, so the operating system on it was probably Sinclair BASIC. They got rid of that computer in the early 1990s, several years before I was born. The earliest computer I remember them having was purchased in late 1994 and originally had Windows 3.1 on it, but was upgraded to Windows 95 a few months later. I remember using it to go on some kids themed websites in the late 1990s.
2406  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Mary Landrieu on: July 10, 2013, 07:38:59 pm
Overall FF. it's ashame that Bill Cassidy will most likely defeat her in 2014.
2407  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best Senate Majority Leader: Final Round on: July 10, 2013, 07:37:21 pm
Definately Mansfield, as Taft was only Senate Majority Leader for a few months in 1953 and was still a polarizing figure in the Republican Party during his time as Majority Leader. I am surprised that LBJ did not make it to the final round, as he was arguably the most influential Senate Majority Leader who ever served.
2408  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Mike Huckabee on: July 10, 2013, 07:32:49 pm
The scariest voice for Social Conservatism, because he has a natural charm. I think he would've done better than McCain due to economic populism, though I also think the Republican brand was too badly damaged in 08 for any Pubbie to win.
You are definitely right about Mike Huckabee and how he would have done in 2008. I feel he would have carried all the McCain states and would have picked up North Carolina, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa and maybe Florida and Virginia. In addition, I think Huckabee's faux economic populist message might have improved his performance among white working class voters. Either way, Mike Huckabee as President is actually a pretty scary thought considering his views.
2409  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Family of Late Sen. Lautenberg endorse Pallone, dis Booker on: July 10, 2013, 03:21:25 pm
Both Frank Pallone and Corey Booker would make fantastic senators in my opinion, but I might be tempted to vote for Pallone in the primary beacuse he has been my congressman since the late 1990s.
2410  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Bill Clinton on: July 08, 2013, 11:17:21 am
Overall FF, although he is definately not perfect.
2411  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Ron Paul on: July 07, 2013, 10:08:57 pm
Generally FF, although I do not agree with him on all issues.
2412  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Most vulnerable incumbent Senator in 2014? on: July 07, 2013, 10:07:52 pm
1. Mark Pryor
2. Mitch McConnell
3. Mary Landrieu
4. Mark  Begich (Only if Joe Miller gets the Republican nomination)
5. Kay Hagan
6. Brian Schatz
2413  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: If every country in the world were forced to vote in the 2012 election..... on: July 06, 2013, 03:18:19 pm
I think that only Israel, Poland, India and maybe the Phillippines would go for Romney, as President Bush was actually viewed somewhat favorably in those countries.
2414  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you have voted?: 2010 U.S. Senate races on: July 05, 2013, 07:22:34 pm
Alabama: Richard Shelby (Republican)
Alaska: Lisa Murkowski (Republican)
Arizona: John McCain (Republican)
Arkansas: Blanche Lincoln (Democrat)
California: Barbara Boxer (Democrat)
Colorado: Michael Bennet (Democrat)
Connecticut: Richard Blumenthal (Democrat)
Delaware: Chris Coons (Democrat)
Florida: Charlie Crist (Independent)
Georgia: Johnny Isakson (Republican)
Hawaii: Daniel Inouye (Democrat)
Idaho: Mike Crapo (Republican)
Indiana: Dan Coats (Republican)   
Iowa: Charles Grassley (Republican)
Kansas: Lisa Johnston (Democrat)
Kentucky: Rand Paul (Republican)
Louisiana: Charles Melancon (Democrat)
Maryland: Barbara Mikulski (Democrat)
Massachusetts (Special): Scott Brown (Republican)
Missouri: Robin Carnahan (Democrat)
Nevada: NOTA (Both Reid and Angle are awful in their own ways)
New Hampshire: Paul Hodes (Democrat)
New York: Chuck Schumer (Democrat)
New York (Special): Kirsten Gillibrand (Democrat)
North Carolina: Elaine Marshall (Democrat)
North Dakota: John Hoeven (Republican)
Ohio: Rob Portman (Republican)
Oklahoma: Tom Coburn (Republican)
Oregon: Ron Wyden (Democrat)
Pennsylvania: Joe Sestak (Democrat)
South Carolina: Alvin Greene (Democrat)
South Dakota: John Thune (Republican)
Utah: Sam Grananto (Democrat)
Vermont: Patrick Leahy (Democrat)
Washington: Patty Murray (Democrat)
West Virginia: Joe Manchin (Democrat)
Wisconsin: Russ Feingold (Democrat)
2415  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you have voted?: 2008 U.S. Senate races on: July 01, 2013, 06:40:49 am
Alabama: Vivian Davis Figures (Democrat)
Alaska: Mark Begich (Democrat)
Arkansas: Rebekah Kennedy (Green)
Colorado: Mark Udall (Democrat)
Delaware: Joe Biden (Democrat)
Georgia: Jim Martin (Democrat)
Idaho: Jim Risch (Republican)
Illinois: Dick Durbin (Democrat)
Iowa: Tom Harkin (Democrat)
Kansas: Pat Roberts (Republican)
Kentucky: Bruce Lunsford (Democrat)
Louisiana: Mary Landrieu (Democrat)
Maine: Susan Collins (Republican)
Massachusetts: John Kerry (Democrat)
Michigan: Carl Levin (Democrat)
Minnesota: Al Franken (Democrat)
Mississippi: Thad Cochran (Republican)
Mississippi (Special): Ronnie Musgrove (Democrat)
Montana: Bob Kelleher (Republican)
Nebraska: Mike Johanns (Republican)
New Hampshire: Jeanne Shaheen (Democrat)
New Jersey: Frank Lautenberg (Democrat)
New Mexico: Tom Udall (Democrat)
North Carolina: Kay Hagan (Democrat)
Oklahoma: Andrew Rice (Democrat)
Oregon: Gordon Smith (Republican)
Rhode Island: Jack Reed (Democrat)
South Carolina: Lindsey Graham (Republican)
South Dakota: Tim Johnson (Democrat)
Tennessee: Lamar Alexander (Republican)
Texas: Rick Noriega (Democrat)
Virginia: Mark Warner (Democrat)
West Virginia: Jay Rockefeller (Democrat)
Wyoming: Mike Enzi (Republican)
Wyoming (Special): John Barrasso (Republican)
2416  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you have voted?: 2006 U.S. Senate races on: July 01, 2013, 06:21:06 am
Arizona-Jim Pederson (Democratic)
California-Dianne Feinstein (Democratic)
Connecticut-Ned Lamont (Democratic)
Delaware-Tom Carper (Democratic)
Florida-Bill Nelson (Democratic)
Hawaii-Daniel Akaka (Democratic)
Indiana-Richard Lugar (Republican)
Maine-Olympia Snowe (Republican)
Maryland-Michael Steele (Republican)
Massachusetts-Ted Kennedy (Democratic)
Michigan-Debbie Stabenow (Democratic)
Minnesota-Amy Klobuchar (Democratic)
Mississippi-Erik Fleming (Democratic)
Missouri-Claire McCaskill (Democratic)
Montana-Jon Tester (Democratic)
Nebraska-Ben Nelson (Democratic)
Nevada-Jack Carter (Democratic)
New Jersey-Bob Menendez (Democratic)
New Mexico-Jeff Bingaman (Democratic)
New York-Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
North Dakota-Kent Conrad (Democratic)
Ohio-Sherrod Brown (Democratic)
Pennsylvania-Bob Casey (Democratic)
Rhode Island-Lincoln Chafee (Republican)
Tennessee-Harold Ford Jr. (Democratic)
Texas-Barbara Ann Radnofsky (Democratic)
Utah-Orrin Hatch (Republican)
Vermont-Bernie Sanders (Independent)
Virginia-Jim Webb (Democratic)
Washington-Maria Cantwell (Democratic)
West Virginia-Jesse Johnson (Mountain)
Wisconsin-Herb Kohl (Democratic)
Wyoming-Craig Thomas (Republican)
2417  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: your fav. president of your lifetime... on: June 24, 2013, 11:15:47 am
Clinton, although I was only 6 1/2 when he left office and thus had no awareness of the political issues of the time.
2418  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Scott Walker VS Howard Dean on: June 24, 2013, 10:33:00 am
Although I'd most likely vote for Howard Dean, Scott Walker would probably win by a slim margin due to the fact that Dean is perceived as ultra-liberal by the far-right, even though he is fairly moderate Democrat on some issues.
2419  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: tulsi gabbard for vp? on: June 24, 2013, 10:24:34 am
Tulsi Gabbard would actually be a great Presidential or Vice-Presidential candidate for 2020. She might be a bit too inexperienced in 2016 though.
2420  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What would be the most anti RINO ticket possible? on: June 24, 2013, 10:19:15 am
Santorum/Cruz easily.
2421  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you have voted on past legislation? on: June 22, 2013, 01:08:24 pm
1906: Pure Food and Drug Act: YES
1909: Ratify 16th Amendment (income tax): YES
1914: Clayton Anti-Trust Act: YES
1917: Ratify 18th Amendment (Prohibition): NO
1917: Declare war on Germany (WWI) NO
1920: Ratify Treaty of Versailles: YES
1924: Immigration Act: NO
1930: Smoot-Hawley Tariff: NO
1933: Agricultural Adjustment Act: YES
1933: National Industrial Recovery Act: YES
1935: National Labor Relations Act: YES
1935: Costigan-Wagner anti-lynching Bill: YES
1935: Social Security Act: YES
1937: Court Packing Plan: NO
1938: Fair Labor Standards Act: YES
1940: Lend-lease Program: YES
1941: Declare war on Germany/Japan (WWII): YES
1944: GI Bill: YES
1947: Taft-Hartly Act: NO
1947: National Security Act YES
1949: North Atlantic Treaty: YES
1950: Declare War on Korea: NO
1951: Ratify 22nd Amendment: NO
1954: Censure Joe McCarthy: YES
1957: Civil Rights Act: YES
1958: Landrum-Griffin Act: NO
1958: National Defense Education Act: YES
1960: Civil Rights Act: YES
1964: Gulf of Tonkin Resolution: NO
1964: Civil Rights Act: YES
1964: Economic Opportunity Act: YES
1965: Voting Rights Act: YES
1965: Social Security Act (Medicare): YES
1967: Thurgood Marshall’s nomination to the Supreme Court: YES
1968: Civil Rights Act: YES
1968: Flag Protection Act: NO
1970: Cooper-Church Amendment: YES
1972: Equal Right Amendment: YES
1973: Case–Church Amendment: YES
1973: War Powers Act: YES
1977: Panama Canal Treaty: YES
1979: Establish relations with China: YES
1981: Reagan Tax Cut: YES
1982: Garn–St. Germain Depository Institutions Act: NO
1983: Martin Luther King, Jr. Day: YES
1984: National Minimum Drinking Age Act: NO
1986: Tax Reform Act of 1986: YES
1986: Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986: NO
1987: Robert Bork's nomination to Supreme Court: NO
1988: Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty: YES
1990: Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990: YES
1991: Force against Iraq (Operation Desert Storm): NO
1993: NAFTA: NO
1993: Brady Bill: YES
1994: Federal Assault Weapons Ban: NO
1996: Welfare Reform: YES
1996: Line Item Veto: YES
1996: Defense of Marriage Act: NO
1997: Communications Decency Act: NO
1998-99: Impeachment/conviction of Bill Clinton: NO
1999: Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act: NO
2001: Bush Tax Cut: NO
2001: Force against Afghanistan: YES
2001: USA PATRIOT Act: NO
2001: No Child Left Behind Act: NO
2003: Force against Iraq: NO
2002: Homeland Security Act: NO
2003: Medicare Part D: NO
2003: Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act: YES
2005: Energy Policy Act of 2005: NO
2005: John Roberts' nomination: YES
2006: Samuel Alito's nomination: NO
2006: Stem Cell Research Bill: YES
2006: Deficit Reduction Act of 2005: NO
2006: Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act: NO
2006: Military Commissions Act: NO
2008: Bank Bailout: NO
2008: New START: YES
2009: Auto Bailout: NO
2009: Stimulus Package: YES
2009: Fair Pay Act: YES
2009: Sonia Sotomayor's nomination: YES
2010: Obamacare: YES
2010: Repeal of DADT: YES
2010: DREAM Act: YES
2010: Elena Kagan's Nomination: YES
2010: Dodd-Frank: YES
2011: JOBS Act: YES
2011: NDAA: NO
2011: Force Against Libya: YES
2012: SOPA: NO
2422  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts III on: June 17, 2013, 08:45:20 pm
The latest in the venerable tradition of libertarian 13 year olds posting moronic timelines in the what-if board:

It is 2100, and another presidential election is coming up. There has been some serious tensions between Poland and Swanceany (a mixture of Switzerland, France, and Germany. Switzerland doesn't follow a non-interventionist foreign policy anymore.) Some conspiracy theorist predict a World War 3, but for now things remain slightly calm in America. China and India is getting stronger, and America and Canada are thinking of uniting into one country called The United States of Canerica, but no major move has taken place yet. The economy is mixed right now with a 7.5% unemployment. It's getting worse. After a long wait, here are the results of the 2100 presidential election:


Electoral College:

531 EVs all together

Republicans: 315 EVs

Democrats: 216 EVs

266 EVs to win


Popular Vote:

Republicans: 51% of vote

Democrats: 48% of vote


(Note: We sold Idaho to Canada to pay for a war. Oklahoma has the most electoral votes because people were rapidly moving there because of massive oil discoveries. Oklahoma is also a swing state. The area between Nevada and Massachusetts is called the Minority Belt, that is why the Democrats did so well in this area.)

How does World War 3 and the future elections look like?

You decide!
I do not frequent the What-if board as much due to timelines like this. Users who post timelines similar to this one are definately trolls and should be banned from the site.
2423  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you have voted for in in past presidential elections? on: June 17, 2013, 08:20:50 pm
1789: George Washington (Independent)
1792: George Washington (Independent)
1796: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1804: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1808: James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
1812: James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
1816: James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)
1820: James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)
1824: Henry Clay (Democratic-Republican)
1828: John Quincy Adams (National Republican)
1832: Henry Clay (National Republican)
1836: William Henry Harrison (Whig)
1840: William Henry Harrison (Whig)
1844: Henry Clay (Whig)
1848: Martin Van Buren (Free Soil)
1852: John P. Hale (Free Soil)
1856: John C. Fremont (Republican)
1860: Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1864: Abraham Lincoln (National Union)
1868: Ulysses Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses Grant (Republican)
1876: James Weaver (Greenback)
1880: James Garfield (Republican)
1884: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1888: Benjamin Harrison (Republican)
1892: James Weaver (Populist)
1896: William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1900: William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1904: Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
1908: William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1912: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive)
1916: Charles Evans Hughes (Republican)
1920: Eugene Debs (Socialist)
1924: Robert LaFollette (Progressive)
1928: Al Smith (Democratic) (I might have been tempted by Norman Thomas though)
1932: Franklin Roosevelt (Democratic)
1936: Franklin Roosevelt (Democratic)
1940: Franklin Roosevelt (Democratic)
1944: Franklin Roosevelt (Democratic)
1948: Harry Truman (Democratic)
1952: Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1956: Dwight Eisenhower (Republican) (I might have been tempted to vote for Adlai Stevenson due to his running-mate Estes Kefauver. The Westman Timeline by Mechaman helped to give me a pretty positive opinion about Estes Kefauver)
1960: John F. Kennedy (Democratic)
1964: Lyndon Johnson (Democratic)
1968: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
1972: George McGovern (Democratic)
1976: Jimmy Carter (Democratic)
1980: Ronald Reagan (Republican) (I might have been tempted by John Anderson though)
1984: Ronald Reagan (Republican)
1988: Ron Paul (Libertarian)
1992: Ross Perot (Independent) (I might have been persuaded to vote for Bill Clinton though)
1996: Bill Clinton (Democratic)
2000: At the time George W. Bush (Republican), but in retrospect, I would have supported Al Gore (Democratic)
2004: John Kerry (Democratic)
2008: Barack Obama (Democratic)
2012: Barack Obama (Democratic) (My first actual vote)

Democratic Primaries 1952-2012:
1952: Estes Kefauver
1956: Estes Kefauver
1960: John F. Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson
1968: At first, Robert Kennedy, then Eugene McCarthy after Robert Kennedy’s assassination
1972: Hubert Humphrey
1976: At first Lloyd Bentsen, then Frank Church after Lloyd Bentsen dropped out
1980: Ted Kennedy
1984: Gary Hart
1988: Al Gore
1992: Tom Harkin
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: Bill Bradley
2004: Howard Dean
2008: Barack Obama
2012: Barack Obama

Republican Primaries 1952-2012:
1952: Dwight Eisenhower
1956: Dwight Eisenhower
1960: Richard Nixon
1964: Nelson Rockefeller
1968: Nelson Rockefeller
1972: Pete McCloskey
1976: Gerald Ford
1980: Ronald Reagan
1984: Ronald Reagan
1988: George H.W. Bush
1992: George H.W. Bush
1996: Bob Dole
2000: John McCain
2004: Lincoln Chaffee (Write-in)
2008: The Republican primary candidates for 2008 were even worse than in 2012, but if I had to choose, I would probably support Rudy Giuliani.
2012: Jon Huntsman

Generic Midterm Election Ballots 1930-2010:
1930: Democratic
1934: Democratic
1938: Republican
1942: Democratic
1946: Republican
1950: Republican
1954: Republican
1958: Democratic
1962: Democratic
1966: Republican
1970: Democratic
1974: Democratic
1978: Republican
1982: Republican
1986: Democratic
1990: Republican
1994: Republican
1998: Democratic
2002: Democratic
2006: Democratic
2010: At the time, I considered myself utraconservative, so Republican, but in retrosepct, I would have voted Democratic.
2424  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: 1962 midterm elections: First hints of an anti-Dem trend in the south? on: June 17, 2013, 07:37:52 pm
You are absolutely right about an anti-Democratic party trend beginning in the south during the 1962 midterm elections. I think it was partially to do with President Kennedy sending in federal troops in order to end the riots that began as a result of the integration of the University of Mississippi, which deeply angered many southern voters. I think that if the Cuban Missle Crisis did not occur, James Martin might have actually beat Lister Hill in the senatorial race in Alabama and both W. D. Workman, Jr. and Taylor W. O'Hearn might have done slightly better against Olin Johnson and Russel Long in their respective senate races in South Carolina and Louisiana.
2425  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Hassan Rouhani on: June 16, 2013, 08:07:36 pm
By normal standards HP, but FF relatively speaking.
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