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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders quits his Women's Convention Spot, to go to Puerto Rico instead on: October 20, 2017, 07:10:42 pm
Bernie is afraid of strong women confronting him. His degrading behavior towards women has been highlighted through the years, so congrats to the Resistance for blocking him out of the convention.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahaha

the most epic trolling.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: October 2017 Federal Election on: October 20, 2017, 05:39:24 pm
President
[1] LLR/Mikewells (Peace Party)
[2] Harry S Truman/Scott (Labor)
[3] WI: Maxwell/Averroes (Vermont Secession)

House of Representatives
[1] vivaportugalhabs
[2] JGibson
[3] Peebs
[4] Governor Illiniwek
[5] thumb21
[6] WI: Dereich
[7] WI: Maxwell
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Lincoln Voting Booth: Ocober 2017 on: October 20, 2017, 05:35:59 pm
Gov

[1] lok1999

Senate

[1] 20RP12

Assembly
[1] Blair
[2] Cxs018
[3] kyc0705

Ballot Measure

[X] Abstain
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Gary Peters the best candidate for 2020? on: October 19, 2017, 08:45:56 pm
I'll give Gary Peters credit for running a pretty solid 2014 campaign (of course, combined with one of the worst GOP campaigns of that year). Seems a little plain for a Presidential campaign though, and a little too moderate for my tastes atm.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Least Favorite Songs on: October 19, 2017, 08:08:29 pm
everything Kid Rock has ever written or had written for him.

Every Rose has its thorns by Poison

DJ Khaled "How many Times"

St. Anger by Metallica, though it is an amusing song to laugh at
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of John F. Kelly on: October 19, 2017, 07:50:44 pm
One of the worst human beings in the Trump administration, and considering the level of talent, that really is a stunning statement. His willingness to be a pawn, to serve the master in whatever humiliating, belittling task he's given, is truly a spectacle.

Trump surrounds himself with military guys not because of his fascist proclivities but because they're chain of command guys who will do their jobs and not go rogue.

Trump also happens to like Kelly's very fascistic proclivities though.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of John F. Kelly on: October 19, 2017, 07:45:50 pm
One of the worst human beings in the Trump administration, and considering the level of talent, that really is a stunning statement. His willingness to be a pawn, to serve the master in whatever humiliating, belittling task he's given, is truly a spectacle. It makes him stand out from a crowd that includes Betsy "Let's Trade in public school for free Vegitales DVDs for black kids" DeVos, Rex "single handidly destroyed a huge economic opportunity for the people of Chad for extra Exxon Mobil profits" Tillerson, Scott "EPA? more like No Way EPA!" Pruitt, and Steve "MR. FORECLOSURES (and also suicide squad" Mnuchin. Because these people came in with a purpose - to destroy schools, enrichen themselves, prop up their political careers, enrichen themselves, and oh, yes, enrichen themselves. I can't imagine what John Kelly does it for.

Oh, and please read up on his tenure as US Southern Command regarding Guantanamo Bay. It's a real treat and an insight to the man he really is - a subhuman.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: "He knew what he signed up for" on: October 19, 2017, 07:39:04 pm
Trump: "hey can I use your dead son as a political prop?"

Kelly: "sure, in fact, i will do a press conference backin you up bud!"

doesn't sound like the "defender of the free world" that all of the generic righties like Corker always talk about, huh?
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump's net worth drops $600 million on Forbes on: October 18, 2017, 11:54:08 pm
He's not even that good at grifting! Hilarious!
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Jefferson Davis school to be renamed after Obama on: October 18, 2017, 11:52:22 pm
cheeyeaaaaaah
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: "He knew what he signed up for" on: October 18, 2017, 11:51:49 pm
really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.

This would make sense if Trump's poll numbers were higher.


I know some on the left like to believe that this stuff doesn't matter and it is all about the economics (lol what nonsense...). But stuff like this is hurting Trump. He has alienated everyone who isn't a part of his base and a big reason why is his lack of tact and discipline. 

Picking fights with NFL players and sports analysts, lying about your predecessor etc. This stuff is becoming tiresome. People are tired of hearing about this guy everyday and it is reflecting in his poll numbers.

His numbers are still about as high as they were or higher than his favorables were close to election day when he defeated Hillary Clinton. Stop.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the previous poster's signature: Return of the Jedi on: October 18, 2017, 10:18:48 pm
ahahaha thats a great and accurate sig
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton ridicules Sanders & say she is committed to build a winning Dem party on: October 18, 2017, 07:10:20 pm
Sanders can go minimize the concerns of racial minorities in 99.9 percent white Vermont.

Sanders has done more work for minorities than Clinton ever did.


If Bernie cared so much about civil rights why did he take his ass to a Lilly white state?


if Hillary cared so much why the hell did she make explicitly racist appeals in 2008? https://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-white-support/



A condemnation of Sanders' thinking on "identity politics" is not an endorsement of Hillary's past actions. She was problematic as well--- but I do agree with her that Sanders' strategy alienates a segment of voters he NEEDS if he has serious intentions of running in a national race.

Saying that attacking Wall Street will end systemic racism is naive and ignorant.

14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: "He knew what he signed up for" on: October 18, 2017, 06:54:04 pm
really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

he probably also told the widow how he once took Jennifer Garner furniture shopping or something.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Republicans, has Trump been a good conservative president? on: October 18, 2017, 06:52:27 pm
He's, by a pretty good margin, the most conservative modern President despite popular perception of him as the most moderate GOP Presidential candidate in recent memory. It's precisely because of doubts about his true conservatism, and how much he owes his allegiances to "true conservative" organizations that make him such a conservative president in my mind - he's dedicated to being President for another term so is unwilling to stab them in the back.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of LGBT Republicans on: October 18, 2017, 06:30:34 pm
my vote is based on LGBT Republican officials. Really too broad of a question for most people, even with the relatively few LGBT Republicans. I'd say that, like most people, somewhere in the middle.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gen. Kelly bans Infowars, Disgusting Alex Jones calls Michelle Obama a man on: October 18, 2017, 06:02:47 pm
if Trump is being drugged now, he's been drugged all his life *jus sayin*
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Your Reaction: Kamala Harris VS Trump map on: October 18, 2017, 06:00:32 pm
Flips Michigan, maybe flips Florida. That's it.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton ridicules Sanders & say she is committed to build a winning Dem party on: October 18, 2017, 05:43:06 pm
jesus christ


this democratic party, with historic lows in the house and senate, IS the democratic party that the Clinton's built. it's mind boggling to me that she thinks she'll build a winning democratic party when every single lever of the party is controlled by either someone her family had hand-picked or had their fingers in the dough of the first Clinton administration. they have utterly dominated the party and so they can not change it unless the Clintons have fundamentally evolved (doubtful).

why does she INSIST on re-fighting, re-fighting, and re-fighting god damn primary battles. it's beyond annoying and not helpful and I say that as someone who voted for her in the primaries. enough is enough.

For whatever flaws some of you may point about Sanders, Sanders isn't going around the country saying things like "hillary blew the election, hillary blew the election", he's going around the country saying things like "hey medicare for all might be a good idea, Trump is a disastrous president, ect".

She wants her ideology to remain the party's standard. Gore/Kerry didn't fight after their losses, and this gave Obama an opening.

okay - how was Obama anything different than the Democratic standard ideologically?

RUSSIA - FP in general.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/01/hillary-putin-doesnt-have-a-soul-005126

what is it with Dem hawks and this weird obsession with claiming Putin doesn't have a soul. It's so odd and counter productive. Biden did it too and apparently its blowing up on social media for some reason.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton ridicules Sanders & say she is committed to build a winning Dem party on: October 18, 2017, 05:33:13 pm
jesus christ


this democratic party, with historic lows in the house and senate, IS the democratic party that the Clinton's built. it's mind boggling to me that she thinks she'll build a winning democratic party when every single lever of the party is controlled by either someone her family had hand-picked or had their fingers in the dough of the first Clinton administration. they have utterly dominated the party and so they can not change it unless the Clintons have fundamentally evolved (doubtful).

why does she INSIST on re-fighting, re-fighting, and re-fighting god damn primary battles. it's beyond annoying and not helpful and I say that as someone who voted for her in the primaries. enough is enough.

For whatever flaws some of you may point about Sanders, Sanders isn't going around the country saying things like "hillary blew the election, hillary blew the election", he's going around the country saying things like "hey medicare for all might be a good idea, Trump is a disastrous president, ect".

She wants her ideology to remain the party's standard. Gore/Kerry didn't fight after their losses, and this gave Obama an opening.

okay - how was Obama anything different than the Democratic standard ideologically?
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alabama Megathread: Jones (D) v. Moore (R) on Dec. 12 on: October 18, 2017, 05:16:20 pm

If all the MAGA chuds aren't already rearing to go, they are now.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2017 & Odd Year Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: VA-Fox News Poll: Northam +7 on: October 18, 2017, 05:15:09 pm
I hope so. That would be RIGHT in line with my prediction.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton ridicules Sanders & say she is committed to build a winning Dem party on: October 18, 2017, 05:08:47 pm
jesus christ


this democratic party, with historic lows in the house and senate, IS the democratic party that the Clinton's built. it's mind boggling to me that she thinks she'll build a winning democratic party when every single lever of the party is controlled by either someone her family had hand-picked or had their fingers in the dough of the first Clinton administration. they have utterly dominated the party and so they can not change it unless the Clintons have fundamentally evolved (doubtful).

why does she INSIST on re-fighting, re-fighting, and re-fighting god damn primary battles. it's beyond annoying and not helpful and I say that as someone who voted for her in the primaries. enough is enough.

For whatever flaws some of you may point about Sanders, Sanders isn't going around the country saying things like "hillary blew the election, hillary blew the election", he's going around the country saying things like "hey medicare for all might be a good idea, Trump is a disastrous president, ect".
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Kamala's Democrats 2020 Bracket - Quarterfinals on: October 17, 2017, 09:40:44 pm
Franken, Brown, Baldwin, Sanders.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Scaramucci strikes again on: October 17, 2017, 09:35:27 pm
The Mooch is an american patriot who deserves to be re-instated at his job as Communications Director or perhaps even promoted to Jared's level.
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