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April 19, 2024, 04:04:42 PM
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 on: Today at 02:08:42 PM 
Started by WV222 - Last post by Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️
Do anyone else think that Bragg is leaving a much stronger case on the table by concentrating on this election interference stuff?

The basic facts of this case are that Trump falsified business records to cover up affairs.  In order for the falsification to be a felony, it needs to be in furtherance of another crime.  So to do this, Bragg for some reason thinks he needs to think of some convoluted way in which the hush money payments constitute election interference or campaign finance violations.  This part of the case has always struck me as incredibly weak.

But he shouldn't need to do this.
Adultery in New York is a crime.  If you are falsifying records to cover up an affair, it can be prosecuted as a felony because the affair itself in the underlying crime.
Trump might not be guilty of adultery with Stormy Daniels, because my impression was the affair was not conducted in New York.  But he almost certainly did commit adultery in New York with Karen McDougal.

So why not concentrate this case on the payments to McDougal to cover up the crime of adultery, and just leave out any feeble connection to election interference?

I know the adultery law in New York might not be popular, but an unbiased jury would be expected to uphold the law whether they like it or not, and this seems like an ironclad case if judged by the letter of the law.

Interesting, I hadn't heard that adultery is supposedly a crime. If it is, that is obviously unconstitutional under the Supreme Court's precedent (Griswold, Obergefell etc).

So the problem with convicting Trump on that basis is it would be easy for SCOTUS to overturn on appeal.

Though given that the Supreme Court is dominated by Conservatives, it would be an interesting/difficult case for them insofar as their ideology would be conflicting with their hackery.

The additional problem is it quite possible for a jury (or even just a single juror) to potential do jury nullification on that basis.

 72 
 on: Today at 02:08:09 PM 
Started by °Leprechaun - Last post by TDAS04
Biden is at least slightly favored in all three, and strongest in PA.

 73 
 on: Today at 02:07:15 PM 
Started by Electric Circus - Last post by Ontario Tory
Animal Farm, because every time someone on Atlas gets muted or banned there is, without fail, a group of users who see the ban as unfair and try to rise up against it.

 74 
 on: Today at 02:06:48 PM 
Started by Torie - Last post by emailking
What exactly is the TikTok bill about? Is this related to the ban (or possible forced sale) they already passed?

 75 
 on: Today at 02:04:13 PM 
Started by Make America Grumpy Again - Last post by emailking
That's fair. Maybe the trial will make things clearer one way or the other. But there seems to be conflicting data on what the public thinks about the case and how they would react to a conviction.

 76 
 on: Today at 01:58:13 PM 
Started by Virginiá - Last post by Logical
Reminder that no matter how hard you fight or shill for Russia, they will still dump you like a used sock once you've outlived your usefulness.

 77 
 on: Today at 01:57:17 PM 
Started by Make America Grumpy Again - Last post by 2016
And there's another poll from Reuters that 2/3 of registered voters think the case is serious. Pick your own adventure.
I personally don't think the case is serious. Voted for Option 2! Was it unethical to do it? Absolutely yes! Does it warrant criminal prosecution? I just don't think so.

 78 
 on: Today at 01:56:29 PM 
Started by TomC - Last post by TomC

At this point, I think Trump Jr would be more likely nominated than Haley.

Of course, HOW Haley or Harris or whomever could be nominated is what I’m trying to figure out. Obviously if Harris were to become POTUS, that is the obvious result for Dems(though is it definitive?)

 79 
 on: Today at 01:54:15 PM 
Started by MR DARK BRANDON - Last post by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
Trash poll

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 on: Today at 01:51:48 PM 
Started by jaichind - Last post by jaichind
Assuming the turnout will be a few % points higher than prelim numbers we area headed for a few-point turnout drop in the Hindi heartland and Maharastra and a few-point turnout increase in in TN.

The split of the AIADMK-BJP alliance seems to have created kinetic energy with both fronts bringing in new supporters to their cause.  DMK+ will lose vote share but as long as the AIADMK+ and BJP+ front split the anti-DMK vote "correctly" the DMK+ should still mostly repeat their 2019 performance. 

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