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Gunnar Larsson
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« on: March 15, 2013, 11:24:51 AM »

Suppose that the election in 2014 (or elections in general) would be run as in the US (first-past-the-post etc.), what would happen? Which parties would form/still be relevant/disappear? Where would they be strong? Would people votes based on values or economics?
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Gunnar Larsson
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2013, 04:27:58 PM »

For the House, the average population of a district would be 667,761 which is close to the US, I think- so that works well. Also, Malta- the smallest country is not that much smaller than Wyoming.

For the Senate, you could do 2 for each country, for 52 Senators but that would be rather small, and then you would have Germany and Malta with the same about of Senators which is worse than the US.

Alternatively, you could give each NUTS region 2 Senators, for a total of 194 Senators. Only problem here is you get countries like the Czech Republic with only 2 Senators, when other countries of similar sizes would have more (like Belgium).

I think 2 for each countries is the most sensible, even though the difference between Germany and Malty of course is very big. As far as I understand it the purpose of the senate and equivalent organs is to represent the "cultures" (for lack of a better word) rather than the individuals so that the smaller ones does not disappear by being overwhelmed by the bigger ones.

I guess such a system would increase the trend towards regions wanting to become independent (Scotland, Catalonia etc.).
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Gunnar Larsson
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2013, 04:45:05 PM »


Yes :-) I think the dynamics would be interesting, especially if there was a presidential election where the candidates would not be able to just focus on just their area/country but would need to find a way to win enough votes in the electoral college. Would it be an anti-federal ("state's rights) periphery vs. a federal centre, a socially liberal north/west vs. a socially conservative east/south or a less geographically clear economical right/left-division? The campaigning could be interesting, which states would be safe/swing?

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Gunnar Larsson
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2013, 04:51:04 PM »

Suppose that the election in 2014 (or elections in general) would be run as in the US (first-past-the-post etc.), what would happen? Which parties would form/still be relevant/disappear? Where would they be strong? Would people votes based on values or economics?

I think they would still primarily vote based off of EU/philia/scepticism. You would see a lot more joint tickets. For example, in Sweden, Moderates/Centre/People's/Christian Democrats would probably form one centre right ticket to oppose the socialists instead of the separate lists the maintain under the current system.
If people would vote based on their views on EU it would something like the Left, the Greens, the Sweden Democrats and perhaps the Centre party against the Social Democrats, the Liberals, the Christian Democrats and the Moderates. I think such coalitions would be rather hard to keep together...

On the other hand in the UK it would probably work much better with Tories + UKIP vs Labour + Libdem.
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