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dubhdara
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« on: September 16, 2004, 04:19:54 PM »

The real question that should be asked is, should a government have the power to ban fox hunting? I can certainly, regardless of my feelings about it (one way or the other), not fathom where goverment would gain any such power. It is in another unlawful attempt to restrict our freedoms by a government that has robbed us of more liberties than any other since the Star Chamber itself!

Few have noticed that this same day as the fox hunting smokescreen was wafted before our eyes, the Civil Contingencies Bill was being debated in the House of Lords. A Bill that, if passed, would give sweeping and - quite frankly - dictatorial powers to certain government ministers when a state of emergency is declared (and we know who will be defining what an emergency is...).

It is the UK's version of the infamous Patriot Acts...and all the eyes are turned toward foxes ;(

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2004, 03:33:14 AM »

This ban is absurd and offensive.

What the British should ban is football.

LOL. Actually, that would make more sense wouldn't it? The argument is far stronger. Wink

As for Britain being a monarchy, well technically it is a constitutional monarchy by way of its Constitution but the Government pay only lip service (if that) to it. Our form of government has degraded into a democracy which is fast becoming a tyranny (as have all democracies in history that have not fallen into anarchy).

I do not believe democracy (the rule of the majority) or monarchy (the rule of the one) is good. It should be the rule of law (a republic) if you ask me.

However, the British Constitution is a limited monarchy that comprises many good principles and procedures and, in my opinion, if it were stuck to, it would be only surpassed by the US Constitution in its original form and intent as a Constituion.



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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2004, 05:04:12 AM »



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Tyranny, according to my understanding of that word, has two aspects to its meaning. Firstly, it is a government where the separation of powers do not exist or is so futile as to prove little effect; secondly, the manner in which the laws are enforced in such a state.

The current socialist British Government have worked tirelessly to remove the remaining checks and balances of our system moreso than any before it. The laws they have proposed and often rammed through Parliament have not been in accord with liberty but with totalitarianism.

I believe our current Government is the greatest threat to our liberties than we have seen fro a long time. At present the Civil Contingencies Bill is going through passage to become law. It has been compared to the Enabling Act that granted Hitler his powers back in the 1930s. Attemps are being made to do away with trial by jury - a vital safeguard to liberty. We are being told we need permission to walk our own streets (ID cards), we have been traitorously ignored by the handing over of sovereignty to foreign powers (and the Executive throwing the just charges of treason brought by patriots out of the courts because the judicary and executive are not independent), the list goes on...

People should read what happened in 1930s Germany. It's a great lesson for our time, and would perhaps open the eyes of many to what is really going on.*

Dubhdara

* The following link may be of some use here, especially to US readers: http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=voicenazi&refpage=issues





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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2004, 04:37:06 AM »

The only just reason I can see why a person might be committing an act worthy of punishment in regard to hunting is if he was violating the property of another either by way of land or the prey itself.

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