Is masturbation immoral?

[Richard]

of course

'of course' makes it sound obvious. It ain't so obvious - I do not see how it does any harm to anyone, so how is it immoral? Enlightend us if you would.

Immoral implies ethics, which in turn implies opinions of individuals.  Immoral does not refer to hurting others.

I voted no.

[Richard]

who voted yes?

I did... just picking.. As long as you are not lusting then its not a sin.

how is it possible to do so without lusting?

Easy... have a weird fetish like a stuffed animal one.  Then you can fantasize all you want about making love with it.

[Richard]

who voted yes?

I did... just picking.. As long as you are not lusting then its not a sin.

how is it possible to do so without lusting?

Easy... have a weird fetish like a stuffed animal one.  Then you can fantasize all you want about making love with it.

Man, you are strange.  Whatever floats your boat, dude.  Just don't give away a sticky stuffed animal to some children's toy drive...

I don't have one!!!!  Not a stuffed animal one in any case... it is just an example.  Heh.

[Richard]

Man, you are strange.  Whatever floats your boat, dude.  Just don't give away a sticky stuffed animal to some children's toy drive...

I don't have one!!!!  Not a stuffed animal one in any case... it is just an example.  Heh.

Can you give a real life example, if you made up the stuffed animal thing?

No, I didn't make it up.  People have all sort of odd fetishes.  I know someone with a diaper fetish.  And someone with a foot fetish.  Just looking at his own feet, or someone's shoes and socks is enough to excite him to the point of relieving himself.

[Richard]

Yes, well, me too, but not shoes or socks.

[Richard]

Would you consider that weirder or not for my fetish with women carrying rifles wearing hammer and sickle covered fatigues?

I hardly think that qualifies as a fetish.  Far too complex for the mind to process subconsciously.  I'd say that is more of a preference.

[Richard]

Would you consider that weirder or not for my fetish with women carrying rifles wearing hammer and sickle covered fatigues?

I still think you're just looking for a dominatrix.  The hammer and sickle is a superficial insertion of your political views, but that's not important.  You want a woman who is going to dominate you.

I'm inclined to agree.  Why don't you check out a club of that nature?  She can tie you up, whip your butt, and then abuse you.

[Richard]

Of course it is immoral!  You're wasting sum good tastin' stuff.  Get her/him to swallow it!


OK I will go now.

[Richard]

You have no idea how greatly it disturbs one's roommates to take picture of yourself naked on their bed and then print it off and give it to them.