Ohio secretary of state gloats that he "delivered" Ohio to Bush

[J. J.]

I thank all those who helped deliver the 284 Electoral votes to Bush, too.  I'm happy to announce that Bush was won Ohio.  According to Jfern that's "stealing" an election.

It is just typical of the Loony Left.

[J. J.]

You know, you shouldnt provide links to the article.  They always disprove your slanted interpretation of what the article says.  He thanked Ohio Republicans for delivering the state for Bush.  He's a Republican.  This is not big news.

He's the guy in charge of counting votes. It's obvious that there is a question of integrity here. What a double standard, you guys would be whining like no tommorrow if it was happening to you.

We should then through out PA's votes because the Secretary of the Commonwealth here was supporting Kerry.

[J. J.]

Don't you see the problem: He's in charge of counting the votes, and gloats about "delivering" Ohio? Also he's asking for illegal money. Don't you Republicans have ANY ethics?

Are use suggesting that someone should be deprived of his right to freedom of speech and his right to vote because his department (not he personally) counts the votes.  Every election board I've ever seen has voting members.

[J. J.]

Remember when he said there would be a "civil war" it Bush carried NV?

[J. J.]

It is just typical of the Loony Left.

Don't be patronizing.

The remarks deserve a partonizing response.  I have no objection to well cited, and well argued positions.  JFRAUD's kind of stuff deserves it.

[J. J.]

Waaaaaahhhhhh Waaaaaahahhhh   Bush stole Ohio!  Waaaahhhhhh.   

Don't forget, "There is no threat from terrorists."

[J. J.]

Waaaaaahhhhhh Waaaaaahahhhh   Bush stole Ohio!  Waaaahhhhhh.   

Don't forget, "There is no threat from terrorists."

Is that the infamous Michael Moore quote?

Here is the quote from Michael Moron:  "There is no threat from terrorism. Yes people died from it, and people will die again, but there is no big threat from terrorism. This is the biggest lie we are being told today."

[J. J.]

It is just typical of the Loony Left.

Don't be patronizing.

I think that "Loony Left" pertains to a specific group of far leftists; he's not saying that all leftists are loony.  At least, I think he's not.

I am certainly not saying that all Democrats or all leftists are loony.  I am saying that an element, so ably repesented by this poster are.  I have posted regarding a number of Democrats I would support or have supported.

[J. J.]

J. J. once said I was loony left just because I thought Nader was a GOP operative. That shows how ridiculous the term is when he throws it around.

No it shows how the Loony Left throws conspiracy theories around.  Should I complain that the third party candidates in OH wanted (and got) a recount that could have been helpful to Kerry?  Actually, if you look at my posts, I defended it as their rights under the law of OH.

The Loony Left is ridiculous (and, for the record, that does not represent all or probably even most of the Democratic Party).

[J. J.]

Except all the evidence shows Nader is a GOP operative. He has openly accepted GOP help and has financial ties to Halliburton.

In the borough where I use to live a school director and a senior council member had stock in Occidental Petroleum.  It didn't mean that either Abert Gore, Sr. (he was OXY's board) or Armad Hammer was running the show.  What "help" did he accept?

[J. J.]

OHIO WAS STOLEN...

Why should someone steal Ohio? I think, it's quite large and not very wealthy. I imagine it's nearly impossible to find a receiver of stolen states who would buy it. Maybe Rhode Island or at least Long Island, that might be possible. They're small and quite precious as far as I know. You could hide them in any other state, perhaps even cross the border to Canada. But not Ohio, it's too big. The police would find you within a few days.

Therefore I do not believe that Ohio was stolen. But to make sure, perhaps some of the forum members from Pennsylvania or Michigan (hopefully Democrats to please jfern) could drive to the border and report whether Ohio is still there or was really stolen.

(I'm not sure if we can trust the perception of the members from Ohio. If the theft was committed carefully, perhaps they have no idea that their home state is hidden in e.g. Montana. Who knows?)

But to repeat myself: I don't think that Ohio was stolen...

Next time I'm down that way, I'll let you know if it's still there.

Though I'd wager that every Pennsylvanian on this board, even the Philadelphians, are actually closer to Ohio than I am. I'm about 500 miles from the state border.

About 300 miles to the East, which is well out of range.