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barfbag
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« on: November 10, 2013, 11:36:18 PM »

If Democrats were going to splinter, it would've been more likely during the Bush Administration. What splintering that might take place has probably already happened. During the Bush years there seemed to be a divide between the party. We had the Lieberman/Gephardt/Daschle/Graham wing of the party who supported labor, higher taxes to promote infrastructure and education, but also wanted people to have limited economic freedom while being somewhat strong on defense and understanding that not everyone is pro-abortion or wants gays to get married. Basically they were the moderate wing. Then there was the rising wing of the Democratic party consisting of Kucinich/Dean/Obama/Pelosi/Reid/Webb/Edwards/Biden/Sebelius who have the sole purpose of driving this country as far to the left as they can regardless of public opinion as we're seeing with the healthcare quagmire right now. They'll also say anything to get elected and re-elected and it doesn't matter what you think of them after the election. Some of them don't even care if you vote them out of office as we saw in 2010 because by the time you vote them out, they'll have made the government so big that they'll be given a job at one of the agencies they've created. The latter wing has won out. Where are the Liebermans and Gephardts now? Most are independents who lean Democrat but don't want to be affiliated with the party. Regardless of the these factions, there's one person who walks a fine line and her name is Hillary Clinton.

Interesting enough we're seeing the same thing happen a decade later in the Republican Party. We have the traditional Reagan Republican wing of the party consisting of McCain, McConnell, Huntsman, Christie, Rubio, Romney, Thune, Ryan, and the Bushes. They're being rivaled now by the tea party wing of Cruz, the Pauls, Bachmann, Perry, Barbour, Cheney, West, Beck, Palin, and Cain. Meanwhile Gingrich and Santorum walk a fine line. These people aren't the answer though. We'd be much better off following the lead of Huntsman and Christie. I predict that the tea party wing will win out and the McCains and Romneys will also retire or be voted out in primaries as happened to Gephardt, Lieberman, and Daschle.

This raises the question of whether or not we can see a large and strong Independent Party ranging from the likes of Chris Christie and Mitt Romney to the ideology of Gephardt and Daschle. I'd love to see a centrist part of that sort.

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barfbag
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 01:08:15 PM »

. Then there was the rising wing of the Democratic party consisting of Kucinich/Dean/Obama/Pelosi/Reid/Webb/Edwards/Biden/Sebelius who have the sole purpose of driving this country as far to the left as they can regardless of public opinion as we're seeing with the healthcare quagmire right now.

LOL, is that supposed to be a list of liberals?

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but did you read my general theory?
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