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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« on: November 11, 2019, 10:09:18 PM »

Would you rather attend a Knocked Loose show or a Pentecostal church service?
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2019, 12:50:52 AM »

Would you rather attend a Knocked Loose show or a Pentecostal church service?

The latter, easily. I have a personal and professional interest in religious practices other than my own; I don't have a personal or professional interest in music I don't like.
Follow up: Do you prefer Knocked Loose or Paramore?
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2019, 03:12:41 PM »

How blown is your mind that this song is 20 years old?


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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2019, 01:50:07 PM »

If you were playing a Crusader Kings game and the Pope excommunicated your character and you were sick of him and didn't want to meet his demands to lift it so you decided to join a heresy would you choose Cathar, Fraticelli, Lollard or Waldensian?

[In theory just converting to Orthodox would be the best move especially since that effectively let's you pick your own Pope but we'll assume that's not an option for practicality purposes)
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2019, 02:10:39 PM »

If you were playing a Crusader Kings game and the Pope excommunicated your character and you were sick of him and didn't want to meet his demands to lift it so you decided to join a heresy would you choose Cathar, Fraticelli, Lollard or Waldensian?

[In theory just converting to Orthodox would be the best move especially since that effectively let's you pick your own Pope but we'll assume that's not an option for practicality purposes)

I don't know from Crusader Kings but in real life I have the most positive mental image of the Waldensians so probably them. Shame about the low view of the sacraments though.
They don't offer any real gameplay benefits over vanilla Catholic but they're good for escaping the Pope. Fraticelli can be fun because it has effectively it's own Pope. I once played a game with the goal of overthrowing the Pope and replacing the Papacy with the Fraticelli one, but I got bogged down fighting Muslims in France (the Umayyad Caliphate was able to drive all of the Catholics out of Iberia and establish a foothold in France, and they even beat back the Crusade for France the Pope called because basically all the AI Catholic rulersp that game were morons.)
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,446
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2019, 03:33:49 PM »

If you were playing a Crusader Kings game and the Pope excommunicated your character and you were sick of him and didn't want to meet his demands to lift it so you decided to join a heresy would you choose Cathar, Fraticelli, Lollard or Waldensian?

[In theory just converting to Orthodox would be the best move especially since that effectively let's you pick your own Pope but we'll assume that's not an option for practicality purposes)
As a follow up, if your character was actually a faithful Catholic would you rather join the Benedictine or Dominican Order?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2019, 04:15:57 PM »


Rosemary.

If you were playing a Crusader Kings game and the Pope excommunicated your character and you were sick of him and didn't want to meet his demands to lift it so you decided to join a heresy would you choose Cathar, Fraticelli, Lollard or Waldensian?

[In theory just converting to Orthodox would be the best move especially since that effectively let's you pick your own Pope but we'll assume that's not an option for practicality purposes)
As a follow up, if your character was actually a faithful Catholic would you rather join the Benedictine or Dominican Order?

Probably Benedictine, again going by the orders in real life. I like the ~aesthetic~ and spirituality behind the early mendicant orders, and I very much admire St. Dominic and especially St. Francis, but politically and especially militarily the Dominicans and Franciscans got up to some pretty bad stuff, roaming the countryside harassing Jews, scapegoating heretics and sometimes also gay men, etc.--the "DEUS VULT" kind of Catholic politics has never agreed with me at all, and I associate it much more with the mendicant orders than with the Benedictines.
Funny, because that sort of thing is the sort of thing people play Crusader Kings games for.

How would you react if church handed out plastic ziplock bags and asked to fill them with dirt from a place you are "rooted" and bring them to church the next week but didn't say why?

I dug up mine from the dirt around the pond right by where I work this morning.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2019, 04:31:41 PM »

Which is better: The Godfather or The Shawshank Redemption?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2019, 01:42:10 AM »

What is your opinion of this song?




Fun fact: Not only is Hayley Williams the guest vocalist on this, this is also her favorite band.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,446
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2019, 01:31:47 AM »
« Edited: December 11, 2019, 02:45:20 PM by Cigarettes & Saints »

What is your opinion of this song?



Fun fact: Not only is Hayley Williams the guest vocalist on this, this is also her favorite band.

I think it's great. The Sprechstimme delivery reminds me a little of a less hokey Fred Schneider. You really do like a lot of good music; it's just the screaming in the stuff you use to rile up the forum that I don't care for.
That actually WAS a pretty screamy band when they got that started. However ten years ago they put out a baroque folk album of all things, and then basically switched to a combination of the styles. What's amazing is the fact that ALL their music is good, no matter the style. There's not many bands I'd expect that for.

Although I suspect your reaction to that when I heard "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms" my reaction was "oh yeah the hymn that's quoted in Watermelon Ascot" would probably be similar to the ones people had to me calling Jack Kerouac "the guy who's mentioned in a Jawbreaker song."

How about the most well known band from Collin Peterson's district?



(I love that video since I went to that place SO MANY TIMES I  my childhood.)
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,446
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2020, 12:37:58 PM »

There's over 12k members of my Facebook group "90s Hardcore/emo Records, CDs, Tapes and Zines"

Of those 12k, what number do you estimate are Catholic?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,446
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2020, 12:54:23 PM »
« Edited: January 07, 2020, 01:02:58 PM by Yes, I Am Talking To You »

There's over 12k members of my Facebook group "90s Hardcore/emo Records, CDs, Tapes and Zines"

Of those 12k, what number do you estimate are Catholic?

Mid-triple digits at most. To the best of my recollection I've never disputed your assertions that, insofar as this scene is religious at all, it's disproportionately low-church Protestant.
I know, just a funny thought that came to mind when a woman mentioned playing a Sunny Day Real Estate song* at her wedding. I'm pretty sure that'd be prohibited at a Catholic wedding.

I'm also wondering how minuscule the number who voted for Trump or their country's right wing parties are...(probably highest amongst the Argentine posters.)

*incidentally Jeremy Enigk is a devout Christian, (I highly doubt he's Catholic of course) although he didn't become one until after the band's first breakup and their first two albums.
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