Regional Protection Party

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Good to see the SDP is electing Xahar chairman, they just went from irrelveant to a joke party

Notice how all the people who voted for Xahar, outside of Lief, were O avatars from outside the US? What are the odds they are all Xahar's accounts?

0. That is very offensive to me, to Lewis, to Earl, to Xahar and to Al to say that. You only say that because you want to discredit them because thet are opposing you. Duke, usually, you say smarter things than that. You don't need to go at the level of DWDL.

Chill out. It's a joke we say about Xahar because he used another account of his to try to influence the Dirty South's elections. I know Earl and Lewis especially are not Xahar accounts. Sorry if you were offended. 

I wasn't offended, but that is strange. That was never proven than he used a account to fraud the SE elections.

Well yes it was. Both were posted with the same IP. Xahar claims his friend just logged on on his computer. We have no way of "proving" it. It's his word against ours. Considering that account only logged on in the past month to vote in the elections, I'm willing to bet Xahar just logged on and voted.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

What's happened in Atlasian/Dirty Southern politics since I've been on hiatus?

     Lots. Andy Jackson beat you, & now Daniel Adams is running against him in his bid for re-election. I'm running for Senator against Bacon King. Bgwah & Afleitch are running for president. The party now has 18 members in total. There's probably other stuff that I'm forgetting.

It was quite ironic, since my own vote would have tied the election. Do we have our own presidential candidate? If not, then I suggest a mass NOTA protest vote.

I actually made a suggestion that we run our own candidate, but the chairman of the party made the argument that we partner with bgwah and meeker this time and explore our own candidate next time. I was leaning towards pushing for someone to run on our ticket this time with Moderate not running. But we pledge to support bgwah/meeker a while back, and felt like it would look bad to backout now.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Do I need to vote absentee or can I wait and vote later?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Technically, Absentee voting is suppose to be only for people who will not be able to vote during the regular time, but it has turned into early voting. You can vote now or during the regular election times.

That's what I thought. When are the regional election supposed to begin? October is just about over.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Well the real-life U.S. allows the states to determine its own method of electing its own representatives and senators, as long as the actual election takes place on the Tuesday following the first Monday in November, or after.

This is another idea I had a while back. Let the governors administer the senate elections and the SoFA would just have to focus on President / Vice President.

^^^ this. The regions need to be in charge of senate races, not the government.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I doubt we need one for just a Senate race. There isn't a Presidential race or anything going on, is there?

We can just have an election dinner or something like that where we all speak about the region. It's been a slow few months, so I doubt we have anything to talk about for a full fledged convention.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Kingofthebench was governor before I took over. I can't believe he's died again. He wouldve made a great President.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

It is a little known Atlasia fact that the RPP was actually started inadvertently by DaveHawk

Let us all thank DaveHawk for his service to the Dirty South! Perhaps one day he will see the light and join our loving party.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Last time I checked, the RPP had a 41 page thread on the front page of Atlasia and has held public conventions prior to each Presidential election since it's existence. When you say all our decisions are made behind smoke and mirrors, it makes you look silly.

I also have an office with an open door for anyone to propose anything they wish to see put on the ballots. We do not have a transparency problem in the RPP or the Dirty South.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

This came down to an issue of trust and loyalty. I had a lot of respect for PiT and felt he was going to do great things in this game (and still could). However, if he is out there freely giving information to a complete stranger (assuming he didn't know it was Xahar), then that is a bit bothersome. He also never mentioned this to any of us, who were at work trying to figure out why we were still having security breaches. We simply can't have that, especially from our Vice Chair. It is very upsetting to me, but it was something we felt we had to do.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

This came down to an issue of trust and loyalty. I had a lot of respect for PiT and felt he was going to do great things in this game (and still could). However, if he is out there freely giving information to a complete stranger (assuming he didn't know it was Xahar), then that is a bit bothersome. He also never mentioned this to any of us, who were at work trying to figure out why we were still having security breaches. We simply can't have that, especially from our Vice Chair. It is very upsetting to me, but it was something we felt we had to do.

well I hope you decide to take him back at some point. Also if it is a bit bothersome than there is no need to act like this.

It is bothersome that he seemed so trusting to a complete stranger to give out his login and password to it. It is bothersome that he didn't come forward and tell us this as we were trying to find out who kept breaching the forum. Instead of telling us he may have accidently given someone access, he kept silent until this whole thing blew up. We've been working with PiT since he started in Atlasia and he was our Vice Chairmen. I have no idea why he didn't come forward with us. If he had and told the truth, none of this would have happened. We could have handled it internally if it was an internal problem. He chose to keep quiet and allow this all to start by first playing dumb and then telling us Marokai should not be trusted. Smid, myself, DWTL and SPC were very disappointed by that, especially in light of what has happened.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Look, my accusations weren't very fair, but Al's conduct with me in the past has been nothing but unprofessional. Referring to me as a rapist, a fraud, or a joke is just as out of line as what I did, or worse. It also seems to go unnoticed that the reason I made the statement in the first place was because Lewis was making BASELESS claims that the RPP was somehow trying to take over the game and that I was manipulating Franzl behind the scenes. I didn't just start throwing that out.

Al threatening to ban me and telling me I committed the worst case of abuse in quite some time is simply ludicrous. We have people unfairly attacked on this forum by BRTD and the like constantly to the point where they run them away from the forum.

I have sent a complaint in to another moderator. I won't make accusations anymore, but I also expect fair treatment. If I'm going to be banned for asking Lewis if he was influenced by Xahar, then I expect a whole host of other posters to go along with me.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm not asking for soft treatment. I want fair treatment. If I am going to get a warning and a threat of bannishment, I expect others to receive the same when they attack someone or bully them. Tell me, was Ebowed reprimanded for his conduct?

You're right. If it benefits your guy, who the  cares! Let everyone and their dog vote!

If this was a Republican leaning group doing it, you'd all be claiming we were stealing yet another election.

Whoa... aren't you the guy who opposes government handouts, unless you're about to lose your trust fund?

Talk about hypocrisy.

What on earth does voter fraud have to do with the bailout? You're really grasping at straws. It's kind of sad.

Earlier in this thread, you were bitching about wealth redistribution.

Apparently the only people who don't need to take responsibility for their financial well-being are the people who are already rich.

And until you can explain this discrepancy, I won't stop bringing it up.

P.S. Dumbass rapist.

And BRTD? Why is he given immunity just because he was 41,000 posts?

I'm really shocked. Palin has turned out to be a genius move!

This has nothing to do with that.

You think McCain would be leading by 10 if Mitt Romney was chosen as VP? No way.

It's called a "convention bounce". Romney? Probably not. Pawlenty or anyone else without sky-high disapprovals? Probably, (though "leading by 10 is quite misleading)

Of course it's a convention bounce. Why can't the Democrats get something called a bounce?

Holy f**k is the idiot rapist saying Obama didn't get a bounce post-convention?

But Palin has energized this ticket. Pawlenty and Romney would not have come close to doing that.

So people who were going to vote for McCain anyway like her. OK.

Probably SPC's. I'm almost certain obebo is still a republican and posts to make a mockery of the far left. It's implausible that someone makes as big a shift as he made as fast as he did. It would be like me adopting former poster Bob Dole's views overnight.

It didn't happen overnight you rapist joke, there was a transition period of about 2 months or so. He was an economically right-wing Democrat for awhile.

Or maybe even yourself?

Duke is an obvious troll and an obvious fraud.

I just want fair treatment. If some members, like yourself, are allowed to run around name calling, creating threads that ridicule certain members (do you just ignore BRTD's bullying of Constine, JJ, Josh22, etc), and engaging baseless accusation, as you stated was the reason for my warning, then I shouldn't be given a serious warning for asking Lewis if he was involved with Xahar. I am positive if I mentioned Lewis's possible involvement with Xahar in every thread as BRTD does with Ben's political views or JJ's predictions or whatever, I'd be banned in a heartbeat.

Don't go whining about how I am the one wanting special treatment when certain posters on this forum are allowed to get away with just about anything. Until BRTD is banned, I think most of the forum would agree that no one else should be booted for any sort of "harassment."

Also, in response to your signature, if you can provide us with quotes where any of us use harsh character assassinations to attack members unprovoked, then I'll accept that. And please, don't tell me that episode where I foolishly had to defend myself against BRTD with the rape thing, which was a joke blown out of proportion, is justification for it to be used as an attack on me months afterwards.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

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I stated in my post that I understand that my accusations were out of line so...

I was asking for fair treatment across the board. Apparently that is too much to ask for around this forum. I know pointing fingers isn't the proper way to go about things, but sometimes exposing some of the hypocrisy around here is the way to go. If someone like BRTD isn't fair game, then who is? I love how all of my examples outside of Ebowed were sluffed off as not counting. 

I'm not asking for soft treatment. I want fair treatment. If I am going to get a warning and a threat of bannishment, I expect others to receive the same when they attack someone or bully them.

The sort of behavior that got you the charming letter that you're very happy with is, or at least was, pretty rare here. But, from what I'm aware, when it has been drawn to our attention it has always been acted on.

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See what Gustaf wrote.

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Oh for God's sake! You weren't yelled at for mockery or name calling. You were warned because you decide to engage in some pretty serious harassment; the sort of thing that can actually get you in a hell of a lot of trouble out in the real world (you know, like losing your job). I cannot believe that you don't understand this; are you so used to getting your own way that you are incapable of understanding that you crossed some pretty big red lines?

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There is only one poster on this forum who is apparently allowed to get away with "just about anything" and it is not BRTD.

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You aren't still trying to defend that? Hells Teeth.

So now this forum is like the real world? Really? You do realize referring to your boss as Raper of Rapington or a fraud or troll will probably get you fired in the real world too, if we're going to play that game. You do realize accusing someone of being a rapist is crossing some pretty big red lines too, don't you? Or does your conduct not count either in this whole little game?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

So now this forum is like the real world? Really?

No. Let me make this clear to you; this forum happens to be a part of the real world meaning that certain rules (you know, things that us commoners have to abide by and that you are supposed to) from the real world apply here as well.

I think you'll find that the vast majority of posters here have no difficulty grasping this concept and have, in fact, never even needed to give it so much as a second of thought.

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You aren't my boss. Actually, you aren't even in a position of authority over me here. Fascinating that you assume that you must be the boss of me in any hypothetical though... says a lot more about you than is especially nice.

Also, there is a difference between casually insulting people and harrassment. You must understand that.

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I don't think that I've ever actually called you a rapist. Besides, I don't see why you keep harking back to that; all it does is remind anyone here at the time quite how much of a disgusting misogynist you are.

Last time I checked, Lewis wasn't my boss either, so I do not understand your point. I did not attack you in any way in that post. You took it upon yourself to crusade against it. I received a much more civil message from Gustaf, which I responded and apologized for my conduct. I have been saying I wronged all along here, but you and some others neglect to read that part and keep on harping that I don't understand. I do. That's not a question to me.

I also never said I was your boss. I was asking you if you'd ever refer to your boss as some of the things you said. Again, I do not understand why you are taking personal offense to this since it was to Lewis, not yourself. If you two are very close, then I apologize for upsetting your friend.

can any of you guys get along? As for Duke and DWTL, can you just accept you did something wrong and move on. This is childish and is RUINING the game. So can you two stop acting like a 5 year old and just learn from you mistakes?

Pardon my naivete, but wouldn't all that be too...easy? You underestimate the impossibility for people to act as, well, people.

I see what you are saying, but this bickering should not go on.

The game is going to be dead, my dear. It's on life support right now. The old guard is retiring and new members have no interest in it. It is pretty pointless, but I enjoy the inner workings of running a party and government. Too many people become obsessed with it and go on power trips.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

We have a lot of pro-lifers in the RPP, so you should be fine.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

We have a lot of pro-lifers in the RPP, so you should be fine.

     Not to mention leaving the issue up to the states is the most conservative position any party would take here. Due to the largely leftist composition of the forum, many parties would be unwilling to take any position to the right of full legalization in the first two trimesters.

I would be against any sort of legislation that would ban abortion myself.

But yes, this is as good as you'll get in Atlasia unless you form your own party, which isn't recommended.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

How can so many people have beefs with our party when they've just joined Atlas?

We aren't here to cater to specific members. We are the premiere and only right leaning party in Atlas. If you want to stay as an independent, fine. No one is forcing you to join. We'd love for you all to join and help us out, but not if you're going to complain about it all the time.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

How can so many people have beefs with our party when they've just joined Atlas?

We aren't here to cater to specific members. We are the premiere and only right leaning party in Atlas. If you want to stay as an independent, fine. No one is forcing you to join. We'd love for you all to join and help us out, but not if you're going to complain about it all the time.

     I suspect it's more like a beef with certain prominent members of the party.

Who?  He gave both myself, SPC, and almost all our other candidates first preference

     He hates me & Duke IIRC.

Yes, because I am a "moderate liberal" as he likes to point out.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'll decide soon if I want to run for another reelection or not. Right now I am consumed with school work and other activities, and I have been bad about being active. The Dirty South has shrunken in size recently, and I take responsibility for that. Come the beginning of May, I'll be out for the summer and my free time to run things will increase. It's just whether the Dirty South needs to go through another month of inactivity is the question.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

DAPS = what now?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I want to post this so everyone can see it. We have been in the process of creating an official RPP logo. I did this mockup last night and I need feedback from more than just a few people.



Let me know what you'd like to see changed, if anything. Please nothing too complicated. I know someone wanted the star through the hole on the P, but that would take me a good three hours to do, and I haven't the patience to do it on an unpaid project.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I oppose that logan. Not only did a DA member create it, but it's way too loud and way too much going on in it. Do we really need five flags in one logo? It's tacky.

My main gripe is that a DA member made it. I appreciate his input, but how would it look if we had to have another party member make it?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm not going back and looking it up, but it's on page 52 of this thread. No need to repost it.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I like mine because it was designed on a Mac.