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Cassius
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« on: December 14, 2013, 01:35:59 PM »

The one who didn't steal my great-uncle's farmland.

Surely you're intelligent enough to realize that your great-uncle's farmland was likely stolen from someone else?

Well, I don't believe that the Shona or Matabele had quite the same conception of private property as we Europeans had, and even if they did, they had no legal records to substantiate their claims. Therefore, the land cannot have been stolen, it was merely... Assumed by the settlers (more to the point, the Matabele/Shona would have nicked it off someone else, if we are to go down that line of thiking). With regards to your position on 'land reform', such as policy can only ever be justified on a 'willing seller' policy (which, after the late 1990's, it wasn't), and certainly has no economic grounds to stand on if the land is being distributed to those who, a) are incapable of farming that land, b) are simply government cronies or c) are being bribed with this land. As for morality, what right do a certain section of the population have to appropriate the property of another section, purely on the basis of the fact that they were of a majorit skin-colour and had been there longer. The farms were built off the back of British capital and British entrepreneurship, and in many cases British labour as well. The black population had no right to take any of the land unless the white owners were prepared to sell it to them.
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Cassius
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2013, 04:53:51 PM »

Mugabe's treatment of white farmers comes nowhere close to Idi Amin's treatment of South Asians in Uganda in the 1970s - he gave them a matter of a few days to leave the country with no time to sell anything and threw them out with little more than the clothes on their backs and the ones who didn't get out in time got shot. There wasn't a whole lot of outcry about that in the West when it was going on. In fact, we basically looked the other way since he was "anti-communist."

That was wrong of course. But your point is?
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