NE2: Islamic State Terror Prevention Act (Failed)

[Blair]

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I've brought this forward, as I said I would as I want all terrorism related legislation to be debated immediately.

Sponsor Clyde1998, you have 36 hours to advocate for this bill

[Blair]

Legislation has been tabled for now

[Blair]

Now that Kurds bill has been signed, I can re-introduce this.

I'll leave it up to Clyde to talk about this bill

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[Blair]

What would happen, if someone shared a video say from CNN/BBC/Fox that showed an ISIS speech. I wouldn't want people facing fines just for sharing a news article

[Blair]

I've got several concerns about this bill.
-I don't think it's the right anti-terror approach, I'd rather see more options to de-radicalize individuals here, or at least track them.
-I don't think censoring the news is the answer-it makes us look weak, and plays into the hands of IS.
-It's press censorship on mass, we need the press to report on the issues using all the information that is available to them
-If someone wants to get hold of a speech, they'd still be able to. It's regional legislation, and wouldn't be effective

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This line as well is not too good, I take the view that every time IS are mentioned they see it as propaganda

[Blair]

Possibly we can change the "any IS propaganda" line showing "any IS videos that show the deaths or execution of any Atlasian" and get rid of the speeches part?

Yeah that sounds good, I'll draft an amendment. This is as far as I'm prepared to go in limiting the media, any further and we'd be defeating ourselves

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[Blair]

If say, the Chicago Tribune decided to post a video of an ISIS beheading, would they be punished under this bill, or are they expected to have a Northeast-only version of their website?

Under my bill I'd want to remove it.

I basically want the version of something called a D-notice that happens in the UK. It's basically where the government send out an alert saying don't publish x because it goes against our security concerns regarding nuclear weapons. But it seems there's unclear ground about what to do with national websites, not just those in the NE

[Blair]

wicked, so it's friendly?

[Blair]

wicked, so it's friendly?

Yes - it's a lot more enforceable at regional level.

Cool, that was just the main issue with the first bill as we'd be limited in enforcing it

[Blair]

What do you plan to do, sue YouTube for $50,000 because someone from Bulgaria posts an IS video that is shown worldwide?

I've amended the bill down to a low level. We'd simply have the right to ask youtube to remove videos featuring killing. It's something that's been done before, and doesn't appear any different from copyright laws where youtube take down videos

[Blair]

If a non-Northeasterner shares a video/photo with non-malicious intent, would we request them to take  it down? And if he/she didn't, the person would be fined?

This is where the issue is, I'd be happy removing individuals from this and just keeping it for news/businesses.

I can't see how we're going to be able to censor every facebook page, because every facebook is accessible from the the Internet in the Northeast

[Blair]

I'm starting to lose faith in this bill. I can see company finings working with Facebook for example, but we can't comb through every single website that has a clip of an ISIS murder on it

[Blair]

How about this as an amendment:

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Basically, I don't think it's going to be possible for us to monitor individuals' activities close enough to remove every ISIS video. I do think we have the capabilities to monitor the media organizations though, and if any Northeastern companies decide to publish the ISIS stuff, we'll be able to catch with no major problems.

I considered introducing an amendment along these lines, because it's the best we can get.

I'm just unsure how we'd police it-so if you run say a small political party/group and you post the video do you count as an individual or company?

[Blair]

Is the amendment friendly? I want to get a vote on this soon

[Blair]

Voting has now started on this bill. All members have 48 hours to vote Yay, Nay or Abstain

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[Blair]

Nay

[Blair]

BY 1-3 this bill has failed to pass the Assembly, and thus has been rejected