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Mr. Morden
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« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2007, 09:25:20 PM »
« edited: November 09, 2007, 01:08:10 AM by Mr. Morden »

Update on Michigan:

The state legislature moved fast to fix the Jan. 15th primary law today, but they appear to have failed, at least temporarily:

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Unclear whether there's still any chance the Jan. 15th primary will be salvaged legislatively.  If it isn't, then the only way the Jan. 15th primary will happen is if yesterday's court ruling is reversed on appeal.

This article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20071108/cm_rcp/primary_calendar_drama_continu

makes it sound as if there is still a Nov. 14th deadline for all of this to be sorted out.  But if it's resolved with new legislation, then I don't see why the Nov. 14th deadline would need to apply.  The MI legislature can create any new deadline it wishes.  The only hard deadline is the length of time it takes to organize a primary.

What happens if there is no Jan. 15th primary (as is starting to look more likely)?  According to that first article:

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However, the second article I mentioned offers a different scenario:

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Suffice it to say, if the MI Dems hold caucuses on Jan. 5th or even Jan. 12th, the chances are extremely high that NH would move its primary to December.

Update: Yet another possible date for a MI Democratic caucus has been floated:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071108/UPDATE/711080507/1361

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« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2007, 05:38:09 PM »

Yes, unlike the DNC, which specifically allowed 4 states to vote pre-Feb. 5th, the RNC doesn't have any special exemptions for Iowa and NH, or anyone else.  But the RNC's sanctions aren't serious enough to dissuade candidates from campaigning in those states.  Losing half your delegates is a price that's more than offset by going first.

Anyway, back to Michigan.  Here are some additional details on the MI GOP's likely backup plan if the Jan. 15th primary fails, and some added background on the legislative dealmaking:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/politics_nation/2007/11/michigan_in_chaos.html

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If nothing happens to restore the Jan. 15th primary, then I assume the MI GOP will go forward with this Jan. 25/26 convention, significantly diminishing the state's influence on the GOP race from what it would have been with a Jan. 15th primary.  (Both because it would be later, and because a convention isn't going to get the same amount of media attention as a primary.)  The Dems would hold a caucus, but there's no consensus on when that caucus would be.  It might be Feb. 9th.  Or it might be in January.  Potentially in early January, even as early as Jan. 5th.

The state legislature apparently will only be meeting one day this coming week (Tuesday) before going on vacation, so I assume if they can't make a deal via horsetrading on that day, the only hope for the primary would be if the court decision is overturned on appeal.  The state has in fact submitted an appeal.

If the primary is dropped, what effect would it have on the race?  Well, aside from the implications on the scheduling of the NH primary, there'd probably be no effect on the Dem. side, because the state had already been stripped of its delegates, and the candidates were ignoring it anyway.  On the GOP side, this would make the SC primary more important, which would probably collectively help Huckabee, McCain, and Thompson.  It makes it a little more likely that one of them will be able to upset Giuliani and Romney, because Giuliani and Romney would both have advantages in MI that they wouldn't in SC.  (Both because they have more $, and MI is a more expensive state to run in, and because Giuliani and Romney are not the kind of Republicans who you would expect to play well in SC.)
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« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2007, 01:21:44 PM »
« Edited: November 14, 2007, 05:08:06 PM by Mr. Morden »

County clerks across MI have been ordered to halt preparations for the Jan. 15th primary, due to the court ruling:

http://www.michigansthumb.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19022338&BRD=2292&PAG=461&dept_id=571474&rfi=6

The state has asked the appeals court for a ruling on their appeal of the decision ASAP, preferably by the end of this week, because they need time to prepare for the primary, if it's really going to happen on Jan. 15th.  I would be surprised if this isn't all settled by Thanksgiving.

Update:

The MI Democratic Party has confirmed that it will stick with the primary rather than switch to a caucus *if* the primary is held on Jan. 15th:

http://www.fox28.com/News/index.php?ID=28122

Also, the state Court of Appeals is set to hear oral arguments in the case tomorrow.
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« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2007, 04:38:19 PM »

The Michigan Court of Appeals heard the case today, but offered no clues as to when they would make a ruling:

http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7366050&nav=0Rcd

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It also looks like the hard deadline on when this must be resolved by is Dec. 1st.  If the primary is Jan. 15th, the overseas military absentee ballots must be sent out by then.

Also, NBC's Firstread continues to say that there's a good chance that this will be resolved legislatively.  But everything else I've read suggests the chances of that happening are slim.
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« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2007, 07:21:29 PM »

The court has rejected the state's appeal, and the decision to strike down the state's primary stands:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hAWD_zB3_RzCIVVeao207KrMPexAD8SV2L0O0

So now the only way to salvage the Jan. 15th primary is legislatively, but don't hold your breath on that one.
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« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2007, 12:01:40 PM »

Well, it looks like they're not giving up.  The MI attorney general's office is appealing the ruling again, this time to the state supreme court:

http://www.chippewa.com/articles/2007/11/19/ap/politics/d8t0r80g0.txt

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« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2007, 10:54:12 AM »

The Michigan legislature won't be meeting today after all, so it looks like any legislative fix is dead:

http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/11/19/michigan-house-wont-meet-on-november-20/

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« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2007, 07:48:58 PM »

The Jan. 15th primary is looking deader and deader.  Now the state's county clerks are saying that there's not enough time left to get out all the absentee ballots:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hAWD_zB3_RzCIVVeao207KrMPexAD8T1JFO80

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