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« on: December 13, 2019, 09:32:37 AM »

Anyone have a narrative summary of the NI results? I see the changes, but don't really know the best way to interpret the vote totals nor what those changes mean Smiley

Huge blow to the DUP (a double blow as they lose their influence in Westminster as well, meaning there will more likely than not be a border in the Irish Sea), losing North and South Belfast as well as falling back in their strongholds like Antrim and failing to take Hermon's old seat of North Down. They just held on W Belfast, but that itself is pyrhic as it suggests that seat is vulnerable outside of the specific context that led to it falling in 2010 (i.e. Iris Robinson having an affair with a teenager).

Also very bad for Sinn Fein, who despite their pick-up in N Belfast had their majorities in South Down and West Belfast cut and lost Foyle (Derry) to the SDLP's Collum Eastwood.

Really it's great news all across the board in that province, assuming nobody here is in love with NI's squabbling pair of ultra-corrupt ex-paramilitaries. Some evidence of significant cross-community cooperation to oust the lazy bastards.
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2019, 07:09:21 AM »

The correct answer, for what it's worth, is to just try to be Labour; to doggedly and pragmatically make the case for using the power of the State to improve the lives of ordinary people. To look outwards rather than inwards and to accept society as it is (rather than what it might rather it be) and to use that to consider what can be done to improve things. Labour has been at its best (and this includes the early years of New Labour) when it has been like this. And it has been at its most electorally successful when like that as well...

in your opinion do you think the white male working class of the welsh coal mining factories stayed with the labour for so long because of fragile masculinity due to the rise of Margaret Thatcher, but now that corbyn are the party of SJW's and African-British voters they are moving more inclined to the pro-life Conservative Party?
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