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« on: July 14, 2018, 02:04:30 PM »

Socialist = HP
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2018, 03:09:30 AM »

I considered her an HP long before her recent feud with Crowley.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2018, 10:39:32 AM »



https://mobile.twitter.com/nycdsa/status/1012808259818926080?lang=en
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2018, 11:00:49 AM »


Nobody made her be a member of this group , she chose to be a member of DSA
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2018, 11:29:27 AM »


That doesn't mean 1 tweet from the group means everyone in the organization has the same view.


This is photos of their organized protests:






 
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2018, 12:23:54 PM »

Total HP.

Side note - if we're going to be politically accurate, she's a run-of-the-mill social democrat, not a true "socialist". Either way, way too far left for me.
Wow, you're actually one of the few conservatives (matter of fact - people) that knows the difference.

I just think it's important to correctly identify your political adversaries. Too often, I think, conservatives paint left-wingers with the "You must love Venezuela/Communism/Mao" brush rather than actually engaging in sound arguments against their policies (which can be done).

Bernie honeymooned in the Soviet Union. He has defended the Castros and Cuba.

Believe me, I'm familiar with Bernie's repulsive remarks about bread-lines and various communist regimes. In his case, the criticism I mentioned above is completely fair; I'm simply saying that I don't think it can be applied to ALL people who advocate for social democracy.


I dont think Ocasio Cortez is a Social Democrat , I think shes an actual socialist.Shes part of a group who advocated for abolishing all profit
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2018, 12:42:31 PM »

Total HP.

Side note - if we're going to be politically accurate, she's a run-of-the-mill social democrat, not a true "socialist". Either way, way too far left for me.
Wow, you're actually one of the few conservatives (matter of fact - people) that knows the difference.

I just think it's important to correctly identify your political adversaries. Too often, I think, conservatives paint left-wingers with the "You must love Venezuela/Communism/Mao" brush rather than actually engaging in sound arguments against their policies (which can be done).

Bernie honeymooned in the Soviet Union. He has defended the Castros and Cuba.

Believe me, I'm familiar with Bernie's repulsive remarks about bread-lines and various communist regimes. In his case, the criticism I mentioned above is completely fair; I'm simply saying that I don't think it can be applied to ALL people who advocate for social democracy.


I dont think Ocasio Cortez is a Social Democrat , I think shes an actual socialist.Shes part of a group who advocated for abolishing all profit

I'd certainly agree that the DSA are socialists, but I think Ocasio-Cortez has falsely labelled herself a Democratic Socialist. Her platform positions are as follows:

Medicare For All
Housing As a Human Right
A Peace Economy
A Federal Jobs Guarantee
Gun Control / Assault Weapons Ban
Criminal Justice Reform, End Private Prisons
Immigration Justice / Abolish ICE
Solidarity with Puerto Rico
Mobilizing Against Climate Change
Clean Campaign Finance
Higher Education / Trade School for All
Women's Rights
Support LGBTQIA+
Support Seniors
Curb Wall Street Gambling: Restore Glass Steagall

Nowhere in there is she advocating for the abolition of profit, the private sector itself, or calling for an end to capitalism. She wants a large, over-reaching government that maintains a giant safety-net, but until I hear actual statements from her that she wants to see the abolition of capitalism, I feel much more comfortable calling her a social democrat.

I agree her platform is more of run of a mil social democrat but her being part of DSA makes me consider her an actual socialist.


Thankfully though she will never be anything but a backbencher in the House so she will never have the chance to implement most of her policies or the DSA one.
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E: 3.42, S: 2.61

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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2018, 12:48:12 PM »

Total HP.

Side note - if we're going to be politically accurate, she's a run-of-the-mill social democrat, not a true "socialist". Either way, way too far left for me.
Wow, you're actually one of the few conservatives (matter of fact - people) that knows the difference.

I just think it's important to correctly identify your political adversaries. Too often, I think, conservatives paint left-wingers with the "You must love Venezuela/Communism/Mao" brush rather than actually engaging in sound arguments against their policies (which can be done).

Bernie honeymooned in the Soviet Union. He has defended the Castros and Cuba.

Believe me, I'm familiar with Bernie's repulsive remarks about bread-lines and various communist regimes. In his case, the criticism I mentioned above is completely fair; I'm simply saying that I don't think it can be applied to ALL people who advocate for social democracy.


I dont think Ocasio Cortez is a Social Democrat , I think shes an actual socialist.Shes part of a group who advocated for abolishing all profit

I'd certainly agree that the DSA are socialists, but I think Ocasio-Cortez has falsely labelled herself a Democratic Socialist. Her platform positions are as follows:

Medicare For All
Housing As a Human Right
A Peace Economy
A Federal Jobs Guarantee
Gun Control / Assault Weapons Ban
Criminal Justice Reform, End Private Prisons
Immigration Justice / Abolish ICE
Solidarity with Puerto Rico
Mobilizing Against Climate Change
Clean Campaign Finance
Higher Education / Trade School for All
Women's Rights
Support LGBTQIA+
Support Seniors
Curb Wall Street Gambling: Restore Glass Steagall

Nowhere in there is she advocating for the abolition of profit, the private sector itself, or calling for an end to capitalism. She wants a large, over-reaching government that maintains a giant safety-net, but until I hear actual statements from her that she wants to see the abolition of capitalism, I feel much more comfortable calling her a social democrat.

I agree her platform is more of run of a mil social democrat but her being part of DSA makes me consider her an actual socialist.


Thankfully though she will never be anything but a backbencher in the House so she will never have the chance to implement most of her policies or the DSA one.

I certainly agree with you there. Sorry Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, you're running for Congress, not god-queen of America. We can all be thankful for that!

She doesnt even realize that her feuding with the Democratic Leadership will make it more likely she will be nothing but a backbencher or a member of an low level committee at best.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2018, 12:48:33 PM »

https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/17/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-unemployment
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2018, 12:57:00 PM »


My goodness... how on Earth does she have a degree in economics? Understanding the composition of the unemployment rate is high school level stuff...

Wait she has a degree in economics and then says something like this


LMAO
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2018, 12:59:27 PM »


Bernie praised both Castro and Chavez
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2018, 11:47:33 PM »

I wish Crowley ran third party and tried to pull a Joe Lieberman
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