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« on: April 10, 2019, 03:55:26 PM »
« edited: April 10, 2019, 03:59:02 PM by Old School Republican »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3424054002

She is a disgrace in every way possible and she should apologize for these statements rather than express outrage that people are mad at her for saying an outrageous thing like this.

She keeps proving that Fuzzy’s assessment of her was correct
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2019, 04:15:44 PM »

The US gave Ilhan Omar refuge , and gave her far far more opportunity than she would have had in Somalia and all she does is attack this nation non stop .

From all her statements she has made it is perfectly justifiable to call her unpatriotic and someone who dislikes this nation and calling her that is not Islamophobic


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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2019, 05:11:51 PM »

^^ I read the link and the fact is it still didn’t make the statement any better
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 06:21:35 PM »

Her statement was basically saying that some Muslims did something that all Muslims essentially got blamed for. That's not at all untrue, because after 9/11 you did have Muslims being attacked and even Sikhs were attacked after being mistaken for Muslims.

She described the 9/11 attacks "as some people who did something"
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2019, 06:24:01 PM »

Her statement was basically saying that some Muslims did something that all Muslims essentially got blamed for. That's not at all untrue, because after 9/11 you did have Muslims being attacked and even Sikhs were attacked after being mistaken for Muslims.

She described the 9/11 attacks "as some people who did something"

Most things are "some people who did something".

Thats exactly the point, and describing the 9/11 attacks like that is totally disrespectful 
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2019, 06:30:11 PM »

Her statement was basically saying that some Muslims did something that all Muslims essentially got blamed for. That's not at all untrue, because after 9/11 you did have Muslims being attacked and even Sikhs were attacked after being mistaken for Muslims.

She described the 9/11 attacks "as some people who did something"

Most things are "some people who did something".

Thats exactly the point, and describing the 9/11 attacks like that is totally disrespectful  
So is a congressman asking the father of two children killed in a hate crime about violence in Islam...which is precisely the result of the point Omar was making.

These are the people that represent us...the majority representative sum of who we are as a nation.  Boy aint that sure sum’in ter be proud of!


Then Dont make your point by describing the 9/11 attacks like that
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2019, 11:29:50 PM »

I do find that Omar is totally ungrateful at this nation when the fact is people like her should be among the most grateful. They gave her refuge , opportunity, and freedom that she would never have gotten in Somalia yet all she does is attacks this nation.


 
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2019, 12:45:05 AM »
« Edited: April 11, 2019, 12:54:00 AM by Old School Republican »

I do find that Omar is totally ungrateful at this nation when the fact is people like her should be among the most grateful. They gave her refuge , opportunity, and freedom that she would never have gotten in Somalia yet all she does is attacks this nation.



This sort of logic is what helped push me out of the Republican Party a decade ago--this attitude that immigrants should show how grateful they are for their freedoms (in this case free speech) by not exercising them.

I am not saying she shouldnt have the right to say those things lol, she certainly does but that doesnt mean the content of her statements arent ungrateful and disgraceful.

BTW my parents and I are immigrants as well and so are most of our friends and most of them agree it is ungrateful for people who are given refuge by this nation to trash this nation nonstop. Also most of our friends arent Republican either but agree on this .
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2019, 01:53:25 AM »

I am not saying she shouldnt have the right to say those things lol, she certainly does but that doesnt mean the content of her statements arent ungrateful and disgraceful.

BTW my parents and I are immigrants as well and so are most of our friends and most of them agree it is ungrateful for people who are given refuge by this nation to trash this nation nonstop. Also most of our friends arent Republican either but agree on this .

But yet you say nothing about blue avatars here in this thread who are "disgraceful" and "disrespectful" by calling Somalia a sh*thole country (literally).
So you are OK with Somalia being disrespected, but if it's our nation, you have a problem.
What if your parent's former country was described as a sh*thole country. Or you OK with that? Would they be OK with that? Is that disrespectful?
There are ways to say or to describe that other countries have certain problems, but it is completely disrespectful to say they are "sh*thole countries," simply because they are poor or in governmental chaos (sometimes due to major internal civil wars).

Comparing a user on an internet forum to a member of Congress is laughable and totally absurd as well. BTW Fhtagn edited that post and changed it to trashy place to live.







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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2019, 10:08:05 AM »

I'm greatly troubled with the people calling her "un-American" and saying she shouldn't be attacking U.S. policies because she's a refugee herself. If anything is "un-American" is this very attitude.

There is a difference between criticizing US policy and trashing our nation non stop Omar comments time and time against are closer to the latter .


And I am not saying that she shouldn’t have the right to say these things as she obviously should , it’s just that she shouldn’t say these things and that is a huge difference.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2019, 11:57:28 AM »

... and trashing our nation non stop Omar comments time and time (again) ...

Where have you been reading that Omar has been "trashing our nation time and time again?"
You say this like she says things everyday. Maybe you should put your energy into someone else who truly is "trashing our nation" and its institutions "time and time again" .... trump.
I swear you act like someone who is totally obsessed with Omar.

I am not a Trump supporter
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2019, 12:21:45 PM »

... and trashing our nation non stop Omar comments time and time (again) ...

Where have you been reading that Omar has been "trashing our nation time and time again?"
You say this like she says things everyday. Maybe you should put your energy into someone else who truly is "trashing our nation" and its institutions "time and time again" .... trump.
I swear you act like someone who is totally obsessed with Omar.

I am not a Trump supporter
Yet when you take the time to trash somebody, it's never Trump. You're a Trump... apologist? No, that's too strong of a word. You're a "MAGA enabler".

Lol I have trashed Trump many times on this forum
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2019, 10:25:17 PM »

She's an absolute disgrace and should be expelled from the Democratic conference. Sometimes it feels as she is a Russian bot to help Donald Trump winning reelection. Omar and Steve King are the absolute worst members of congress.

Imagine hating the left so much you'll repeat literal right-wing propaganda to justify your hatred lol

Propganada lol, she said those words.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2019, 01:13:27 AM »

She's an absolute disgrace and should be expelled from the Democratic conference. Sometimes it feels as she is a Russian bot to help Donald Trump winning reelection. Omar and Steve King are the absolute worst members of congress.

Imagine hating the left so much you'll repeat literal right-wing propaganda to justify your hatred lol

Propganada lol, she said those words.

Except for when you "conveniently" remove the context to fit your personal agenda.


She clearly described the 9/11 attacks in a dismissive way and that is unacceptable. If she didnt know that then she would be then showing that she is pretty dumb as well and if you add in all her previous controversial statements then she would be one of the dumbest members of Congress as well.








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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2019, 01:34:11 AM »

She's an absolute disgrace and should be expelled from the Democratic conference. Sometimes it feels as she is a Russian bot to help Donald Trump winning reelection. Omar and Steve King are the absolute worst members of congress.

Imagine hating the left so much you'll repeat literal right-wing propaganda to justify your hatred lol

Propganada lol, she said those words.

Except for when you "conveniently" remove the context to fit your personal agenda.


She clearly described the 9/11 attacks in a dismissive way and that is unacceptable. If she didnt know that then she would be then showing that she is pretty dumb as well and if you add in all her previous controversial statements then she would be one of the dumbest members of Congress as well.

Jesus Christ, you're more obsessed with her than I am, and that's coming from a guy who left his party over their treatment of her.

Nah I just believe she should be stripped of her foreign policy committee assignments as a result of this and her past statements (The GOP stripped King of all of his).

The Democratic Party cant turn into the Labour Party







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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2019, 09:12:39 PM »

Why can't Omar just focus on the needs of her district like the other freshmen instead of being in front of the cameras and magazines? Be more like Katie Hill, Lauren Underwood, and Lucy McBath and stop trying to be a celebrity.

She’s a justice Democrats aka part of the TYT caucus that’s ehy
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2019, 12:22:40 AM »

It's not about criticism of a politician. It's about his whole Muslim baiting schtick that he has been going on about since 2016. His being the biggest icon for the sort of politics that got 50 Muslims killed in New Zealand.

This is all about criticism of a dumb thing Omar said. You don't get a "get out of criticism about dumb things you said" card because of your religion or political affiliation. It doesn't and can't work that way.

No its not. Its about his whole brand of politics casting Muslims as bad people.

cinyc (and the creator of this thread) knows this. They are just being trolls.

Being trolls lol , calling Omar's comments at the very least unpatriotic and outrageous is not islamophobic. I would say the same about any politician who said similar things like Omar did like for example Jeremy Corbyn(Who I despise more than Omar)


For example this statement was even more outrageous than Omar's : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11834653/Jeremy-Corbyn-calls-death-of-Osama-bin-Laden-a-tragedy.html.


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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2019, 02:55:05 AM »

It's not about criticism of a politician. It's about his whole Muslim baiting schtick that he has been going on about since 2016. His being the biggest icon for the sort of politics that got 50 Muslims killed in New Zealand.

This is all about criticism of a dumb thing Omar said. You don't get a "get out of criticism about dumb things you said" card because of your religion or political affiliation. It doesn't and can't work that way.

No its not. Its about his whole brand of politics casting Muslims as bad people.

cinyc (and the creator of this thread) knows this. They are just being trolls.

Being trolls lol , calling Omar's comments at the very least unpatriotic and outrageous is not islamophobic. I would say the same about any politician who said similar things like Omar did like for example Jeremy Corbyn(Who I despise more than Omar)


For example this statement was even more outrageous than Omar's : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11834653/Jeremy-Corbyn-calls-death-of-Osama-bin-Laden-a-tragedy.html.

Once again, you really need to stop sourcing your outrage from headlines alone.

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In a clip from the Press TV show The Agenda, Mr Corbyn is heard complaining that there had been "no attempt whatsoever that I can see to arrest him and put him on trial, to go through that process". He went on: "This was an assassination attempt, and is yet another tragedy, upon a tragedy, upon a tragedy.
"The World Trade Center was a tragedy, the attack on Afghanistan was a tragedy, the war in Iraq was a tragedy. Tens of thousands of people have died. Torture has come back on to the world stage, been canonised virtually into law by Guantanamo and Bagram.
"Can't we learn some lessons from this? Are we just going to sink deeper and deeper? The next stage will be an attempted assassination on Gaddafi and so it will go on. This will just make the world more dangerous and worse and worse and worse."

He’s saying that the tragedy was OBL not being arrested and put on trial, rather than summarily executed.  You don’t have to agree, but it’s a valid argument.

He is the same one who called Hamas his friend, his totally Anti American as well(https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy-corbyn-avatar-of-anti-americanism-labour-leader-opposition-foreign-policy/).


Omar also has a track record of bad mouthing this nation, and saying Anti American stuff so she should not get the benefit of the doubt uness you want to admit she is one of the dumbest members of congress.
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2019, 02:56:39 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2019, 03:04:54 AM by Old School Republican »

Wow.. this thread and the comments from the deplorables are worse than YouTube comments. But whatever it takes to OWN THE LIBS, amirite MAGAtards?!

Omar should not have described the 9/11 attacks in such a dismissive and disrespectful way. I watched that video Trump in that video was clearly responding to her describing the 9/11 attacks in a dismissive and disrespectful way. She could have made her point in any other way but she decided to make this one which either makes her comments either outrageous or extremely stupid .


Trump in this video wasn't being Islamaphobic and while yes he has in the past he didnt in this video and maybe instead attack him for those past Islamaphobic comments instead of defending Omar's outrageous and idiotic comments just because she has a D next to her name.  Trump has many many things you can attack him on for this issue but this isnt an example of one
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2019, 03:23:07 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2019, 03:27:56 AM by Old School Republican »

Wow.. this thread and the comments from the deplorables are worse than YouTube comments. But whatever it takes to OWN THE LIBS, amirite MAGAtards?!

Omar should not have described the 9/11 attacks in such a dismissive and disrespectful way. I watched that video Trump in that video was clearly responding to her describing the 9/11 attacks in a dismissive and disrespectful way. She could have made her point in any other way but she decided to make this one which either makes her comments either outrageous or extremely stupid .

Trump in this video wasn't being Islamaphobic and yes he has in the past but maybe instead attack him for those instead of defending Omar's outrageous and idiotic comments just because she has a D next to her name.

You repeating yourself over and over again like a parrot with your "disrespectful" ways isn't going to change anything.
This has been blown totally out of proportion by MAGAtards, and you OSR should be ashamed of yourself for inciting additional hate, that could lead to the Congresswoman's death or that of her family.


How is this even close to inciting hate, all this video has done is quote Omar and then show why the 9/11 attacks should not be described in a dismissive matter. This ad didnt go after anyone but Omar, if it did then yes it would be terrible but it did not.


Politicians have been attacked far more severely than Omar did here (and its not really close) due to their response to the 9/11 attacks being viewed as too weak and they didnt say anything as outrageous or dumb as Omar did. Many got smeared unfairly too but Omar isnt one of them.



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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2019, 09:57:50 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2019, 10:02:25 AM by Old School Republican »

Omar should not have described the 9/11 attacks in such a dismissive and disrespectful way. I watched that video Trump in that video was clearly responding to her describing the 9/11 attacks in a dismissive and disrespectful way. She could have made her point in any other way but she decided to make this one which either makes her comments either outrageous or extremely stupid .

Sounds to me like you're saying that she deserves these death threats all because she said something (she didn't) that triggered you MAGAtard snowflakes. One step closer to full-on fascism!  




What the hell man , when have I ever said or implied that . Please delete this post please because you are better then this
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2019, 02:27:08 PM »

I'll cut her some slack as to the above.  She's already shown herself as anti-American; we probably shouldn't pile on with things like this.  I've heard enough from her to know where here heart is, and where it is not.

If she didn’t have the D next to her name I wonder how many people would defend her
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2019, 02:29:36 PM »

The fact that the Democrats have all come to the defense of Ilhan Omar is maddening.


Remember Republicans stripped Steve King of every single one of his committee assignments , Democrats at the very least should strip her of any committee related to foreign policy and national security
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2019, 03:15:07 PM »

I'll cut her some slack as to the above.  She's already shown herself as anti-American; we probably shouldn't pile on with things like this.  I've heard enough from her to know where here heart is, and where it is not.

If she didn’t have the D next to her name I wonder how many people would defend her

If she was a white man with an R next to her name, you would just ignore all her faults like you do the Orange Clown.

Wrong I have criticized Trump a lot and I supported stripping Steve King of his committee assignments
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