Trump: NFL should fire players who kneel during anthem

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I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims. And guess what, it's perfectly my right as an American to do that. It's not unamerican as the TRIGGERED right claims it is.

I do not see a problem with NFL players kneeling either. It's another false outrage the President and the right have.

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The anthem shouldn't be played at any sporting event period. It's ridiculous that it even happens frankly.

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I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims. And guess what, it's perfectly my right as an American to do that. It's not unamerican as the TRIGGERED right claims it is.

I do not see a problem with NFL players kneeling either. It's another false outrage the President and the right have.

America is not Anti Muslim or Anti Arab

Poll after poll is showing that to not be true. Anti-Arabism and Islamophobia is sharply on the rise.

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I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims. And guess what, it's perfectly my right as an American to do that. It's not unamerican as the TRIGGERED right claims it is.

I do not see a problem with NFL players kneeling either. It's another false outrage the President and the right have.

America is not Anti Muslim or Anti Arab

You mean aside from the atmosphere of Islamophobia and racism directed towards Arabs and those who appear to be Arab to ignorant people, the government's history of racial profiling of Arabs and Muslims, the spying on Muslim communities following 9/11, the government's recent ban on people from several predominantly Muslim countries (while ignoring that the perpetrators of 9/11 were majority Saudi (excluded from the ban list) and most American terrorist attacks were conducted by people born in Western countries), and the hysterical right-wing conspiracies that are believed by a significant number of Americans (such as around half of Republican voters believing Obama is a Muslim)?

The fact is if you are an refugee or immigrant from the middle east you should not call America anti muslim as America gave you a better life.

I have known Arab and Muslim refugees who fled the U.S after receiving vast amounts of threats, hatred and lack of jobs because of their background, most went to Canada or Europe.

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My question is this:  Is Colin Kaepernick's country "the great American Republic"?  Or is it some corrupt, detestable, racist, sexist, homophobic state, worthy only of contempt?  As an American, I'm always willing to have my country set right by those whose country is the great American Republic.  I'm not willing to accept correction from those who loathe the Republic, and Kaepernick has not convinced me he is not in that category.  Nor, unfortunately, have a few folks posting here.  It's the difference between Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Colin Kaepernick.

I (nor anyone else) needs to prove my American patriotism to you. Many of these folks kneeling (and those of us supporting them) have said and shown time and again that they love this country. That you don't accept that is your own problem, not ours.

This country is great. But it also treats many of its citizens improperly, and that needs to be fixed.

We're really the #1 when it comes to waving our patriotism in the face of everyone, why do we NEED to play the anthem at sporting events, high school, college and professional?

Why do we need to wave American flags everywhere? We're literally at brainwashing levels of patriotism.

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I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims.

Christians in the Islamic world face far more discrimination and violence than Muslims anywhere in the West.

And your point is? Are we supposed to judge our country by the way people in other countries behave and are treated?

My point is that Muslims are hypocrites for complaining about ''Islamophobia'' in the West. It doesn't even come close to how non-Muslims are treated in most countries where Muslims make up a majority. If they think the West is so ''oppressive'', they should move to the part of the world where they are the ones in charge.

Lol this has to be a joke right? I am not hypocritical lol, I don't  "Oppress" anyone. I literally could say the same about the west when countries claim to be for "everyone" and make laws and environments where certain ethnic groups and religions feel unwelcomed, face discrimination or what ever.

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I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims.

Christians in the Islamic world face far more discrimination and violence than Muslims anywhere in the West.

And your point is? Are we supposed to judge our country by the way people in other countries behave and are treated?

My point is that Muslims are hypocrites for complaining about ''Islamophobia'' in the West. It doesn't even come close to how non-Muslims are treated in most countries where Muslims make up a majority. If they think the West is so ''oppressive'', they should move to the part of the world where they are the ones in charge.

So, a Muslim such as TSA is a hypocrite because some Muslim that he never met, belongs to an ethnicity with which he has no relation, and lives thousands of miles away from him in a country he never visited engages in oppressive behaviors towards non-Muslim(s)? Is that what you're saying?

It's funny when right wing loons all like to place us all in a box and act like we all hold the same views.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims. And guess what, it's perfectly my right as an American to do that. It's not unamerican as the TRIGGERED right claims it is.

I do not see a problem with NFL players kneeling either. It's another false outrage the President and the right have.

America is not Anti Muslim or Anti Arab

You mean aside from the atmosphere of Islamophobia and racism directed towards Arabs and those who appear to be Arab to ignorant people, the government's history of racial profiling of Arabs and Muslims, the spying on Muslim communities following 9/11, the government's recent ban on people from several predominantly Muslim countries (while ignoring that the perpetrators of 9/11 were majority Saudi (excluded from the ban list) and most American terrorist attacks were conducted by people born in Western countries), and the hysterical right-wing conspiracies that are believed by a significant number of Americans (such as around half of Republican voters believing Obama is a Muslim)?

The fact is if you are an refugee or immigrant from the middle east you should not call America anti muslim as it was America who gave you a better life.

So, no matter how you're treated in this country, you should shut up and accept it? It's understandable to see why Muslims may feel this way. We've been bombing and invading majority Muslim countries for nearly two decades now, engaged in imperialistic actions there for decades, many leaders (such as the President) espouse Islamophobia, they've been systematically targeted by the legal system and law enforcement, refugees and other citizens from Muslim majority countries have been scapegoated and banned from the country, and are often subjected to bigotry, discrimination, and domestic terrorism (bombing of mosques). The American government is anti-Muslim, despite the fact that it allows Muslims residence and (for most) ability to immigrate here. America's attitude and policies towards Muslims (domestically and internationally) need to be radically changed.

What about the British national anthem that the players stood for? Are the British not imperialists? "The sun never sets on the British Empire!"

Practically every Western country has a tragic imperialist legacy from which they've benefited at the expense of those they exploited and oppressed. The consequences of Western imperialistic hubris is ongoing, with terrorism, the rise of the Islamic State, the Iranian Revolution, Saudi Arabia and its exporting of Wahhabism through madrasas they fund using Western money, and the artificial borders imposed upon peoples throughout Africa, Asia, and Latin America, being direct consequences of those actions.

It's all documented evidence, Western governments toppled a democratic regime to implement the Shah which led to the IR, Saudi's oil money is funding radical mosques, plus the secular dictatorships which plagued the nations led to a religious revival.

Recently Tunisia has taken steps to become a progressive country, I do think our countries will eventually follow in that footstep, but Saudi Arabia must be stopped.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims. And guess what, it's perfectly my right as an American to do that. It's not unamerican as the TRIGGERED right claims it is.

I do not see a problem with NFL players kneeling either. It's another false outrage the President and the right have.

America is not Anti Muslim or Anti Arab

You mean aside from the atmosphere of Islamophobia and racism directed towards Arabs and those who appear to be Arab to ignorant people, the government's history of racial profiling of Arabs and Muslims, the spying on Muslim communities following 9/11, the government's recent ban on people from several predominantly Muslim countries (while ignoring that the perpetrators of 9/11 were majority Saudi (excluded from the ban list) and most American terrorist attacks were conducted by people born in Western countries), and the hysterical right-wing conspiracies that are believed by a significant number of Americans (such as around half of Republican voters believing Obama is a Muslim)?

The fact is if you are an refugee or immigrant from the middle east you should not call America anti muslim as it was America who gave you a better life.

So, no matter how you're treated in this country, you should shut up and accept it? It's understandable to see why Muslims may feel this way. We've been bombing and invading majority Muslim countries for nearly two decades now, engaged in imperialistic actions there for decades, many leaders (such as the President) espouse Islamophobia, they've been systematically targeted by the legal system and law enforcement, refugees and other citizens from Muslim majority countries have been scapegoated and banned from the country, and are often subjected to bigotry, discrimination, and domestic terrorism (bombing of mosques). The American government is anti-Muslim, despite the fact that it allows Muslims residence and (for most) ability to immigrate here. America's attitude and policies towards Muslims (domestically and internationally) need to be radically changed.

What about the British national anthem that the players stood for? Are the British not imperialists? "The sun never sets on the British Empire!"

I dislike the UK so much I want to leave it, but one of your colonies is almost entirely without power after a hurricane. But that's 'their' problem right? And while the UK isn't a flag bearer for race relations, at least 70 years ago US black servicemen could get counter service.

Like you just said, they're our colony so we will take care of them..
What's keeping you there?

We seem to be doing such a GREAAT job helping Puerto Rico right now...

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I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims.

Christians in the Islamic world face far more discrimination and violence than Muslims anywhere in the West.

And your point is? Are we supposed to judge our country by the way people in other countries behave and are treated?

My point is that Muslims are hypocrites for complaining about ''Islamophobia'' in the West. It doesn't even come close to how non-Muslims are treated in most countries where Muslims make up a majority. If they think the West is so ''oppressive'', they should move to the part of the world where they are the ones in charge.

So, a Muslim such as TSA is a hypocrite because some Muslim that he never met, belongs to an ethnicity with which he has no relation, and lives thousands of miles away from him in a country he never visited engages in oppressive behaviors towards non-Muslim(s)? Is that what you're saying?

It's funny when right wing loons all like to place us all in a box and act like we all hold the same views.

You mean like when you say America is anti-Muslim?

That's because the evidence is mounting that it is, I experience it much more often than I should

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims. And guess what, it's perfectly my right as an American to do that. It's not unamerican as the TRIGGERED right claims it is.

I do not see a problem with NFL players kneeling either. It's another false outrage the President and the right have.

America is not Anti Muslim or Anti Arab

You mean aside from the atmosphere of Islamophobia and racism directed towards Arabs and those who appear to be Arab to ignorant people, the government's history of racial profiling of Arabs and Muslims, the spying on Muslim communities following 9/11, the government's recent ban on people from several predominantly Muslim countries (while ignoring that the perpetrators of 9/11 were majority Saudi (excluded from the ban list) and most American terrorist attacks were conducted by people born in Western countries), and the hysterical right-wing conspiracies that are believed by a significant number of Americans (such as around half of Republican voters believing Obama is a Muslim)?

The fact is if you are an refugee or immigrant from the middle east you should not call America anti muslim as it was America who gave you a better life.

So, no matter how you're treated in this country, you should shut up and accept it? It's understandable to see why Muslims may feel this way. We've been bombing and invading majority Muslim countries for nearly two decades now, engaged in imperialistic actions there for decades, many leaders (such as the President) espouse Islamophobia, they've been systematically targeted by the legal system and law enforcement, refugees and other citizens from Muslim majority countries have been scapegoated and banned from the country, and are often subjected to bigotry, discrimination, and domestic terrorism (bombing of mosques). The American government is anti-Muslim, despite the fact that it allows Muslims residence and (for most) ability to immigrate here. America's attitude and policies towards Muslims (domestically and internationally) need to be radically changed.

What about the British national anthem that the players stood for? Are the British not imperialists? "The sun never sets on the British Empire!"

Practically every Western country has a tragic imperialist legacy from which they've benefited at the expense of those they exploited and oppressed. The consequences of Western imperialistic hubris is ongoing, with terrorism, the rise of the Islamic State, the Iranian Revolution, Saudi Arabia and its exporting of Wahhabism through madrasas they fund using Western money, and the artificial borders imposed upon peoples throughout Africa, Asia, and Latin America, being direct consequences of those actions.

It's all documented evidence, Western governments toppled a democratic regime to implement the Shah which led to the IR, Saudi's oil money is funding radical mosques, plus the secular dictatorships which plagued the nations led to a religious revival.

Recently Tunisia has taken steps to become a progressive country, I do think our countries will eventually follow in that footstep, but Saudi Arabia must be stopped.

People don't realize that girls used to wear skirts in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Egypt; burqas and niqabs were relatively rare outside of the countryside in most places; and that the Saudi government has been destroying sacred religious sites for decades while simultaneously bastardizing Islamic teachings. Muslims around the world, but especially in Europe, are frequent recipients of Saudi Wahhabi teachings thanks to their funding of madrasas and mosques with money they receive from Western countries in exchange for oil. The Iranians are among some of the most liberal Muslims in the world, yet live under a theocratic regime due to the Iranian Revolution that was triggered in reaction to the Western-imposed Shah (king) and his brutality, which US-UK imposed by deposing a secular Socialist democratically elected leader who wanted to nationalize Iranian oil reserves. The borders of countries like Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, etc... are artificial creations by Western imperial powers with little regard for the history or ethnicities of the people in those areas.

The Middle East and Africa can certainly develop and progress (as you noted, Tunisia is a good example of that), but there are many obstacles in their way (most (but not all) of which stem from current and past outside intervention).

Iran and Saudi Arabia have been brainwashing their citizens like North Korea does.

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I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims.

Christians in the Islamic world face far more discrimination and violence than Muslims anywhere in the West.

And your point is? Are we supposed to judge our country by the way people in other countries behave and are treated?

A gay refugee literally lost fingers fleeing to Canada after Trump's election because will be killed if he returns to his home country.

Alas, these are the people Trump and his apologists wants to keep out of the US.  Ironic, considering that the worldview of many of his supporters is not too different from that of Islamists.

Which is why there are more pressing matters than getting triggered by who is kneeling for an anthem.