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Adam T
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« on: August 16, 2018, 04:55:58 AM »

This is unequivocally the wrong way to go, but it's the outcome when one party's leader goes full dumpster fire discourse and the other tries to stick to civil discourse, only for the former to win an election and not be held accountable by their constituents afterward and for the latter to lose.

I only wish we can have a modicum of civility and rational discourse in the near future.

The reason this doesn't have consequences for the GOP is because they're a cult with zero ethics, something the Democratic party should really stop striving to be like. Most Dem voters have ethics, and that goes to another reason Trump won--Dem voters didn't show up because their candidates are increasingly acting like petty children who throw tantrums because their older sibling can be mean and they can't. This guy should resign because the party doesn't need this sort of cancerous mentality in it, unless they enjoy large swaths of voters seeing them as no different from the GOP.

Steve Cohen is one of the best members of the House. He can be blunt and abrasive at times but to resign for making a joke in poor taste in completely disproportionate.
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Adam T
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2018, 07:26:18 AM »

People: please don't abet the "whataboutism" in this thread. It will go away if not fed.

This isn't just about 'whataboutism' this is more about Republicans (maybe not so much here) trying to force Democrats to cower.  I refer you back to the 2004 Democratic Nomination Convention when for some reason John Kerry and the others in the Democratic leadership promised to not say anything negative about George W Bush.
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Adam T
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2018, 08:52:45 AM »

People: please don't abet the "whataboutism" in this thread. It will go away if not fed.

This isn't just about 'whataboutism' this is more about Republicans (maybe not so much here) trying to force Democrats to cower.  I refer you back to the 2004 Democratic Nomination Convention when for some reason John Kerry and the others in the Democratic leadership promised to not say anything negative about George W Bush.

Yeah, there's the thread where people pretend they are outraged by Cohen's comment (although I agree, he shouldn't have said it), and then there's the whataboutist effort to make this about Juanita Broaddrick.

Ah I see what you mean.
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Adam T
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2018, 03:41:51 PM »

This is unequivocally the wrong way to go, but it's the outcome when one party's leader goes full dumpster fire discourse and the other tries to stick to civil discourse, only for the former to win an election and not be held accountable by their constituents afterward and for the latter to lose.

I only wish we can have a modicum of civility and rational discourse in the near future.

The reason this doesn't have consequences for the GOP is because they're a cult with zero ethics, something the Democratic party should really stop striving to be like. Most Dem voters have ethics, and that goes to another reason Trump won--Dem voters didn't show up because their candidates are increasingly acting like petty children who throw tantrums because their older sibling can be mean and they can't. This guy should resign because the party doesn't need this sort of cancerous mentality in it, unless they enjoy large swaths of voters seeing them as no different from the GOP.

Steve Cohen is one of the best members of the House. He can be blunt and abrasive at times but to resign for making a joke in poor taste in completely disproportionate.

If he's one of the best members of the house than the entire Dem caucus should resign. If we're going to have people that act like Republicans, and then have people defend this "because republicans do worse", for one you're letting Republicans dictate what is okay (and in effect legitimizing what they're doing) and second, validating all the people who didn't vote in 2016 because they saw both sides as the same.

Pretty sure that would be their own fault for making false equivalencies then. If you're going to preach about how Democrats are as bad as Republicans even when they're not, then you have no right to whine if they actually do end up becoming just as bad.

Oh, I agree 100% and am of the old thinking that you shouldn't complain about the outcome if you don't vote. But I also think the Dems (and the left in general) are legitimizing the Republican brand of "discourse" with things like this--and in the end all that's accomplished is a competition to see how awful of a human you can be. Dems and other left-leaners need to grow a spine and call this out when it's coming from our side instead of defending it.

Calling him out is one thing, asking him to resign or insisting he resign is quite another.
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