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Question: Racism
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Rhode Island celebrating Victory Day
 
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Southern state holidays dedicated to Jefferson Davis and/or Robert E. Lee
 
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Unconditional Surrender Truman
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« on: May 02, 2015, 05:52:56 PM »

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Unconditional Surrender Truman
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2015, 08:20:23 PM »
« Edited: May 02, 2015, 09:13:56 PM by Assemblyman Harry S Truman »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

Since the day marks the surrender of the Japanese, it's somewhat racist.

This is nonsensical. We weren't fighting the Japanese because they were Japanese; we were fighting the Japanese because they bombed us. There were certainly some racist actions taken by the US during the war, but that hardly makes celebrating Victory Day racist.


That's like arguing that the Fourth of July is "pro tar-and-feathering" or that Bastille Day is "pro-guillotine". I'd add that, unlike both of those examples, the use of the atom bomb probably reduced the death toll in the long run, as the only alternative - a land invasion of Japan - would have been a bloodbath. Secretary of War Henry Stimson estimated that as many as four million Americans would be killed in such an operation (to say nothing of the Japanese casualties), compared to less than 300,000 killed at both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Obviously, it would have been preferable for 0 people to die, but that's not how things work in war.
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Unconditional Surrender Truman
Harry S Truman
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2015, 09:13:29 PM »

Uh, Truman, I never said what you quoted me as saying. Please change that.

My apologies. I was trying to quote "I'm a RINO", but instead quoted your response to him by accident. I assure you it was not intentional.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2015, 09:35:04 PM »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

Since the day marks the surrender of the Japanese, it's somewhat racist.

This is nonsensical. We weren't fighting the Japanese because they were Japanese; we were fighting the Japanese because they bombed us. There were certainly some racist actions taken by the US during the war, but that hardly makes celebrating Victory Day racist.


That's like arguing that the Fourth of July is "pro tar-and-feathering" or that Bastille Day is "pro-guillotine".

Unlike those two dates, nuclear weapons were actually the reason for Victory Day.

The US victory in the Pacific Theater was the result of four years of fighting in the Pacific Theater. The use of the atom bomb at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was crucial, but hardly all-encompassing; therefore, arguing that Victory Day is a celebration of nuclear weapons is inaccurate. Were the holiday in question "Hiroshima Day", or were it on the anniversary of the dropping of the atom bomb, that would be different.
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