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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2011, 12:59:05 PM »

"The Christian West bases a great deal on the sefl-conceit that it is superior as a civilization to Islamic countries.  However, what is happening in the U.S. now leaves a different impression.  When American citizens celebrate the death of bin Laden with dancing and chanting, it fills the local onlooker with dread--the jubilation estranges, because it shows us that American society is more distant from us than it may appear.  'In God We Trust" is on every U.S. dollar, but this is not the forgiving God of the New Testament, but rather the vengeful God of the Old Testament.  In this country, re-socialization is the aim of government punishment--in the U.S., (the aim) is retribution, all the way up to capital punishment.  Capital punishment, particularly when it is accompanied by no (legal) process as in the case of bin Laden, and when criminality and rage suffice to invoke it, and when in its implementation it is euphorically celebrated, belies how deeply the "eye for an eye" ideology is rooted in American society.   The quest for revenge may be powerful, but it is not morally estimable."

yo, Osama died on his chosen battlefield and from his command center.  the ideas behind that article are actually more dangerous to freedom (because it is advocating defeat) than Osama ever was
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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2011, 11:59:09 AM »

the ? now becomes what to do with pakistan...the US couldn't even trust them enough to inform them...expect the US to be shown the door

Paki and NATO engage in firefight with each other:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-17/pakistan-troops-clash-with-nato-helicopters-in-afghanistan-border-region.html
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2011, 12:20:45 PM »

the ? now becomes what to do with pakistan...the US couldn't even trust them enough to inform them...expect the US to be shown the door

Paki and NATO engage in firefight with each other:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-17/pakistan-troops-clash-with-nato-helicopters-in-afghanistan-border-region.html

Obviously there is only one solution left:


no, but we should invest whatever it takes to keep constant tabs on the locations of the Paki nukes, so that if it becomes necessary to take out their nukes, we know where they are.  our relationship/cooperation with Paki is basically over - not that there was ever much of a relationship to begin with, after all, they are the ones who supported the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan
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