Kerry: Saddam deserves special place in Hell

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"Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who deserves his own special place in hell..."

It appears that in order to look tough, Kerry (who claims to be a Christian) is assigning people their own special places in Hell.

First, who is Kerry to condemn Saddam before the last chapter of Saddam's life is written?

Second, what is to prove by Saddam ending up in Hell?  Did Christ come to earth to prove God's ability to send people to Hell?  Or did Christ come to earth to prove how gracious and forgiving God was IF people will simply repent and turn to him?

Does Kerry really think his arrogant and hateful rhetoric will gain him votes?

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first, Kerry is a politician running for president.

Your point is....?
 
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second, it proves Saddam was a "bad man" and will get his comeuppance.

Eze 18:21  If a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. 22 None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him. Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD . Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

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Christ came to earth because his mom had sex with his dad.

Mat 1:18 This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit.

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my point is that you asked "who is kerry?"  I answered who kerry is.

Actually, I asked, "Who is Kerry to condemn Saddam [prematurely]...?"

I'm going to give Kerry the benefit of the doubt that he really doesn't hate Saddam.  But in doing so, I must conclude that Kerry is a person who will preach hatred toward others simply to gain power.

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I certainly hope you don't intend to vote for Bush if you oppose candidates who "preach hatred".

Are you accusing Bush of preaching hatred?  

Please explain.

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1. I think Bush would be inclined to agree with Kerry on this.

Conjecture.

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Would you be criticizing Bush if he said the same thing?

Of course.

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2. Saddam isn't a Christian anyways, so based on previous conversations with you he'll be going to hell simply for that reason if nothing else. The chances he'll convert are slim to none, and slim has left town.

Small chance or large–I pray God that not only Saddam but all people come to know the grace that comes only from Christ.

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3. You'll find that most people, Christians included, would think Saddam deserves to go to hell. And most of those people will also think he deserves worse than most who go there. Heck, since I'm going to hell anyways(not being a Christian and all) do you think I deserve the same punishment in hell as someone like Saddam, or Hitler, or Stalin, ect?

So you think you are better than others?

1Tim 1:15 Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners–of whom I am the worst.

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If that doesn't make me a better individual, then I don't know what does.

You can't get a little bit pregnant.

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One cannot argue with someone who believes the bible to be the literal word of God.  As someone who does not believe in the bible, it is fruitless to try and argue my point.  

Then why did you chime in?  You and John Dibble constantly express your rejection of religion, yet you are both eager to engage in religious arguments.

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Kerry, frankly, was just making the point that he's as strongly vigilant against despots like Saddam as anyone, even if his methods would differ drastically from Bush's.

The strongly vigilant take action.

Also, did Kerry not vote to authorize Bush to use force against Saddam?

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As far as voting to allow war, again there is a vast difference between that up or down vote and actually making the final decision to start a war.

Dude, go back and read the resolution Kerry voted for:

http://www.yourcongress.com/ViewArticle.asp?article_id=2686

The resolution stated that Iraq was in violation of the cease-fire from Gulf War I and authorized Bush to  "enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq."  The resolution deemed enforcement of all relevant UN resolutions to be in the security interest of the US AND deemed the conflict with Iraq as being part of the war on terror.

Kerry can be critical of how Bush conducted the war and occupation, but Kerry does NOT have a legitimate right to complain about the decision to remove Saddam since his removal was also included in the resolution Kerry voted for:

"Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime; "

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ur kidding.....um.....does "evil-doers" ring any bells?  

How is THAT hatred?  If someone does an evil deed, then aren't they an evil-doer?  If I lie, doesn't that make me a liar?

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I maintain that if you TRULY believe voting for the resolution = pro-Bush on Iraq in all respects, then you don't think the role of the President is noteworthy.  The truth is the Congress can only vote yes or no and sometimes one votes yes on a resolution that one doesn't fully endorse, because they support it for the most part.  Giving Bush the ability to wage war does not equal agreeing with his methods.

Isn't it true that this resolution was basically a declaration of war on Iraq if Saddam didn't abide by all relevant UN Security Council resolutions?

And since Saddam did NOT comply, how on earth can Kerry say that it was wrong to go to war when Kerry himself is the one that voted for the ultimatum?

If Kerry wasn't serious about going to war with Iraq, then he shouldn't have thrown down the gantlet.

Like Bush says, we now live in a world where our actions must match our worlds.

If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk.

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Anyway, I wouldn't count on Hussein becoming a born again Christian.

He probably won't, be that doesn't mean we shoudln't show him compassion now that we have him under our control.

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I'm not saying he WOULDN'T have gone to war, but that he would have proceeded more cautiously, allowed more inspections and either ended up not at war or with a more unified stronger coalition.

But, KERRY is saying that he wouldn't have gone to war.

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but god forbid we abolish the death penalty.

Please tell us what the death penality has to do with eternally judging someone.