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Question: Opinion of Matthew 5:28
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a general and metaphorical warning to guard one's thoughts
 
#2
a prescription for mental health problems
 
#3
a beautiful saying of Jesus that should be embraced by feminists--he did not say "women, dress modestly"
 
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something else
 
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Statilius the Epicurean
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Junior Chimp
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« on: December 02, 2019, 01:01:38 AM »

Though the Church denies this, Origen seems to have taken this teaching to heart and castrated himself.

Hang on, wasn't this a rumour made up by his enemies? Origen himself denied it.

Anyway, if he did then he was probably thinking more of Isaiah 56:3-5:

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3 Do not let the foreigner joined to the Lord say,
    “The Lord will surely separate me from his people”;
and do not let the eunuch say,
    “I am just a dry tree.”
4 For thus says the Lord:
To the eunuchs who keep my sabbaths,
    who choose the things that please me
    and hold fast my covenant,
5 I will give, in my house and within my walls,
    a monument and a name
    better than sons and daughters;
I will give them an everlasting name
    that shall not be cut off.
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Statilius the Epicurean
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,614
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2019, 07:19:03 PM »


On Prayer:
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The church in the strict sense is without “a spot or wrinkle or anything of the kind,.” is holy and blameless. Into it enters neither child of harlot, nor eunuch or emasenlate

Commentary on Matthew:
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Before we present the interpretation that seems true to us, we would like to present two possible false interpretations of this verse and to refute them as far as we are able
(...)
For many have believed that, as a result of the two physical eunuchizations, the third eunuchization must also be physical, and have dared to eunuchize themselves, in analogy to the first eunuchizations, out of a fear of God, to be sure, but nonetheless mistakenly, and have drawn reproach, and perhaps even scandal, upon themselves, not only among them who stand apart from the faith, but also among them who can understand any human action better than those [actions] that produce suffering and physical mutilation (out of an imagined fear of God or excessive love of abstinence) or better than that person who, no matter what else he may undergo, submits himself to such an action.

Epiphanius in the Panarion says he disbelieves the story. The only witness is the notoriously unreliable Eusebius, who says his source is the political enemy of Origen, Demetrius!
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