2008 Candidates Of The Week #1

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2008 Presidential CANDIDATES OF THE WEEK #1 (3/1/05 - 3/8/05)

Democrat: General Wesley Clark (ret.)

 

Bio: General Wesley K. Clark is one of the nation’s most distinguished retired military officers. During his thirty-three years of service in the United States Army, he held numerous staff and command positions, served in Vietnam, and rose to the rank of 4-star general and NATO Supreme Allied Commander. Now in the private sector, General Clark is chairman and CEO of Wesley K. Clark & Associates, a strategic advisory and consulting firm, serves on the boards of several private corporations and non-profit organizations and comments regularly on politics, diplomacy and public affairs.

(rest of bio: http://www.draftwesleyclark.com/Biography.htm )

HOTTT Button Issues:

Abortion: Pro-Choice
(http://www.draftwesleyclark.com/on_the_issues.htm#Women )

Gun Control: Pro-Gun Control (make it a local issue, not a national one.) (http://www.draftwesleyclark.com/on_the_issues.htm#Guns )

Tax Cuts: Against Bush’s cuts.  Families First tax plan: fair,progressive,simple,responsible (http://www.draftwesleyclark.com/on_the_issues.htm#Taxes... )

War in Iraq: Supports war in Afghanistan, but not in Iraq. (http://www.issues2000.org/2004/Wesley_Clark_War_+_Peace... )

(more issues: http://www.issues2000.org/Wesley_Clark.htm )

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Republican: Rudy Giuliani - Former Mayor of New York



Bio: He was unsuccessful in the race for mayor of New York in 1989, however he won the election in 1993, becoming the first Republican mayor in twenty years. He was re-elected in 1997. Under Giuliani’s leadership, crime figures were reduced dramatically, However, his policy of ‘zero tolerance’ (tough penalties for minor offences) was criticised as draconian and racist. He also launched a tough crack-down on homelessness and the sex industry, concentrating on the visibility of the problem, rather than helping its victims

(rest of bio: http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/new_site/biography... )

HOTTT Button Issues:

Abortion: Pro-Choice (No ban on partial-birth abortions. Dec 1999)

Gun Control: Pro-Gun Control (All gun owners should pass written test. Mar 2000)

Tax Cuts: For Bush's tax cuts

War in Iraq: Pro-War (Bush groupy)

(more issues: http://www.ontheissues.org/Rudy_Giuliani.htm )
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For each candidate…

1.)   Will they run?
2.)   Can they receive their party’s nomination?
3.)   How would they do in the general election?
4.)   Who would win in a head to head dual between this week’s candidates? (Map's?!?!?)
5.)   What is your overall assessment of both candidate

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For each candidate…

1.)   Will they run?
2.)   Can they receive their party’s nomination?
3.)   How would they do in the general election?
4.)   Who would win in a head to head dual between this week’s candidates? (Map's?!?!?)
5.)   What is your overall assessment of both candidates?

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That's an easy one. Clark is worthless and proved it. Guiliani is a good candidate in general but too liberal to win the primary. He also has some baggage and isn't young.

Chance matchup happens: <1%
Chance Guiliani would win: ~95%

Some baggage?  He has more baggage than any of the names mentioned for 2008 with maybe the exception of Newt Gingrich.  I pray everynight that either Rudy or Newt are on the ticket in 2008.  Can you imagine those two running around the country preaching family values?

By the way, if anyone could make an image of Rudy's political compass I would appreciate it.  I really dont know enough about the guy to make a political compass for him and unlike Clark he doesnt have one at issues2000.

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Clark is a TERRIBLE candidate. And I mean terrible. Trust me, I could care less as I don't like either, but Clark has no chance in hell of being elected President of the US... he would lose to Guiliani by 20% (my guess is Guiliani would take all 50 states), he would lose to anyone with the slightest inclincation to seek the GOP nomination. He would probably lose to Orrin Hatch.

I used to respect alot of your comments, but as of late you have been a complete partisan hack.  50 states? Get for real.

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Anyway, Bob, who do you vote for in this situation?

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Yes, Giuliani would do horribly in the South.

We always joke about Roy Moore making a run if the Republican candidate didnt sit to well with the base.  Well, this is one of those circumstances where he might actually run and do well.

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nick- maybe you don't get this, but I REALLY dislike RINOs like Guiliani- actually I didn't vote for Bush because I don't like him either. So, if I hate someone, how can I be biased in their favor?

I'm telling you honestly, my opinion is that Clark is a truly terrible candidate... he was a loose cannon with no experience that had no clue what he was doing... his record as a General wasn't even good. He can't win the South, period, end of story, or anywhere else for that matter.

Now, if Moore runs as a 3rd Party? That makes it more interesting, but Guiliani wins in a ~1968 situation.

I understand and maybe I shouldnt have called you a partisan hack, but the 50 state Giuliani/Clark comment and some comments you have made refering to Evan Bayh as a landslide loser type candidate have made your comments look like straight partisan BS.

Someone once told me.  Rule #1 in political analysis. Dont let your politics get in the way of your analysis.

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Republican and Clark was before he ran for President!!!

Thats a myth, Clark was never a Republican.  He openly admits to voting for Republicans in the past, but he was never a registered Republican or directly affiliated with the party in anyway.

Thats weird that you wouldnt vote for Bush in an election as close as this one.  Im sure he was a lesser evil to you than Kerry, right?  Who did you vote for?

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"beat the sh**t" out of Bush during primary season...

Hey, at least he was being honest.  I like that (LOL). However, I will admit he is a little bit of a loose cannon, but Im sure he has learned alot and matured some since his first campaign.

Other than Sanford, who are you warming up to as the 2008 Republican nominee?  Or should I say... Keeping an eye on?

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The former commander of Brit forces in Kosovo could have made the whole thing up, but it seems much more likely that Clark, given his pattern of irrational behavior, is a loose cannon--capable of anything.  Why else was he fired from his position by his good friend Bill?

Ive debunked this British General "Wack Jacko" WWIII myth too many times.  Its someone else's turn.

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For each candidate…

1.)   Will they run?
2.)   Can they receive their party’s nomination?
3.)   How would they do in the general election?
4.)   Who would win in a head to head dual between this week’s candidates? (Map's?!?!?)
5.)   What is your overall assessment of both candidates?

3) Rudy would be great in a general election.  Clark would still be an inept campaigner
4) Rudy wins 430-108.  Clark only wins his homestate of Ark and the staunchest Dem strongholds of  CA, IL, DC, RI, MA, & VT.

3)  You forgot that if somehow Giuliani was to slip through the cracks and get the nomination.  A third party candidate would definitley run to the right of him and pull at least 4-5%.  That would cripple his campaign.

4.) As a Maryland Ressident I can tell you Clark would win Maryland.