Kelly Gissendaner Executed

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Yet you think executing a woman who didn't actually kill someone herself is 'exactly the sort of case' that the death penalty should be used in? Go home.

I don't support the death penalty in any case because of how many wrong convictions there are.

Having said that I witnessed a close friend of mine go through a divorce.  The pain of watching the poor guy sit at home night after night wondering who was boning his wife was pretty bad.  I couldn't imagine if she then turned around and had the guy kill my friend.  That to me is far worse than some sixteen year old poor black kid who never had a chance in life shooting a cop during the course of a robbery.

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What 'power' did she have to 'make' her boyfriend kill her husband?

What plays, poetry, or books do you read?

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It's all so arbitrary isn't it? Who gets the death penalty and who doesn't is such a slapdash process that it is pretty much impossible for it to function as a deterrent.

You squeal, you get the deal.  Nothing arbitrary about this case.

Although the death penalty is pretty arbitrary.  Guilty, innocent doesn't matter.  Just put them to death.

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Addressing the disparity in sentencing issue again, I don't see how can we consider her more guilty (and thus the one more deserving death penalty) than an actual triggerman.

You guys don't watch the news?  Prosecutors give people deals to avoid the death penalty all the time.  Killer took the deal.  Where's the confusion?

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Addressing the disparity in sentencing issue again, I don't see how can we consider her more guilty (and thus the one more deserving death penalty) than an actual triggerman.

You guys don't watch the news?  Prosecutors give people deals to avoid the death penalty all the time.  Killer took the deal.  Where's the confusion?

Again, doesn't mean it's not arbitrary. Deals system is one of the most abused in American law.

The entire US "justice" system stinks.  I was just addressing the wailing going on regarding this narrow topic.  Her fate was in her hands.  He took the deal.  She didn't.  His living or dying has nothing to do with her.

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i have no problem with the death penalty being legal and i think she was a rotten person with no remorse. At the same time, the people closest to her (her children) have forgiven her and they should have respected that wish.

I think the "victim's rights" movement is a racket since the DA/Judge will only listen to the victim if it involves a harsher penalty (though I'd rather get the DP then spend years in solitary).

Let's be honest.  2 out of 3 of her children have reconciled with her.  No one wants to talk about the third child.

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That's pretty much my sentiment, but I'm to the point now where I don't think I can give the death penalty that much credit since there's a percentage of completely innocent people on death row with the state showing no interest in getting it right. In this case everyone knew she wasn't the actual killer.

The woman isn't innocent.  We all know she convinced this guy to kill her husband.  Secondly it was her choice to enter into this plot to kill her husband.  The state did not force her into this murder plot.  Secondly after her husband was killed and she was caught she was giving a second opportunity to avoid the death penalty and again she made her choice.  That is a far cry from a mentally retarded innocent black kid getting framed for murder by a crooked cop.  Those two thinks should not be conflated.  It really dishonors all the poor souls who were murdered just because they were poor and black.

Bottom line the law should not be there to protect people from their own gross stupidity.  If you for some reason decide to lie about a murder plot until you are put to death that is your choice... a choice many poor black people never have the luxury of being offered.

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That's pretty much my sentiment, but I'm to the point now where I don't think I can give the death penalty that much credit since there's a percentage of completely innocent people on death row with the state showing no interest in getting it right. In this case everyone knew she wasn't the actual killer.

The woman isn't innocent.  We all know she convinced this guy to kill her husband.  Secondly it was her choice to enter into this plot to kill her husband.  The state did not force her into this murder plot. 

Of course she's not "innocent," but she didn't pull the trigger!! If we're going to execute people who don't pull the trigger, we're in Fascist territory.

Now were are comparing her to innocent Jewish children that were tortured and gassed by Nazis?!  You are really doing a disservice to every innocent person that has been killed.

They don't execute Mob chiefs for ordering like 50 hits, they throw them in jail.

Which mob boss has been convicted of 50 hits?!  Do you have any idea what it would take to convict someone of 50 murders when they never pulled the trigger?  Name one person who has been convicted of 50 murders.  Many times reputed gangsters are convicted for non murder racketeering and tax evasion.  And of course when facing the death penalty they have the brains to take the deal.  You are watching way too many movies.

You also keep ignoring one simple fact.  She was offered a deal that included PAROLE.  She turned it down.  Did Hitler give all the Jews a choice at the door to the oven?  No?  Then please stop with this Holocaust stuff.  She is a guilty person and she had a very simple choice.  She made her choice.

Watching movies and making emotional outbursts is not the way to deal with a serious topic like this.  50 murder convictions?  What are they teaching in our schools?

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I'm kinda surprised at the votes suggesting otherwise.

Part of the reason is there are people like me who are against the death penalty in all cases because the ridiculous number of innocent people we have put to death.

Unfortunately the other problem is a lot of people on this forum didn't bother to read anything about the case.  They are acting like some omnipotent power in the government singlehandedly decided that she would die and the guy who plunged the knife it would live.  They don't seem to realize she was offered life with the possibility of parole and turned it down.  Her choice.