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  Which would be worse for the liberal international order? (search mode)
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Britain leaving the EU and losing Scotland and NI
 
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Turkey leaving NATO
 
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Omega21
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« on: September 12, 2019, 04:26:09 PM »

Got into a long argument with a friend over this today. Long story short, I argued the latter because Turkey is a huge power player in the Middle East and Caucasus and practically the only thing keeping the Russians out of the Mediterranean, and all of the resulting post-British states would likely remain in the Western fold; he argued the former because it undermines NATO's second-strongest military and power projection capable power, likely seriously damages the European economy, and sets a precedent of successful secessionism in Western Europe, and Turkey already isn't a reliable partner anyways.

We figured both of us were somewhat biased by our academic specialties (I'm a Eurasia defense specialist, he a German-speaking political economist), so I would be interested to hear other opinions (or other options for similar discussions).

Russia is not a threat to Europe, with the exception of Ukraine.
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