North Korea Mega Thread

[Virginiá]

All I know for sure is that I really don't want Trump calling the shots if we are going to approach the North Korea problem with military action. In fact, to be honest, I don't want a Republican at all after Bush, but if it has to be one, at least let it be someone who is stable and has some sort of connection to reality.

[Virginiá]

I never said anyone did.  I was talking about what Fuzzy Bear said when he said that not supporting America in a war is being anti-America.  Is that not the proper terminology?  In a war against North Korea, we would all be anti-North Korea.  We would be un-North Korean in opposing North Korea's dictatorship and heinous actions.

And I would NEVER EVER say someone falsely hates America. At the end of the day, Americans need to be united.

Given a binary choice between America and North Korea, I think it's perfectly possible for Americans to side with America but still chastise the leadership for provoking or even initiating a war that could have (and should have) been avoided.

[Virginiá]

Do conservatives actually trust Trump to lead America safely and effectively through a war with a country like North Korea? That's a serious question. We all have seen Trump behave, all the lies he tells, the erratic decision making, the knee-jerk reactions that had zero forethought. I get that I see Trump differently than a Republican does, but Trump's absurd, often-unhinged behavior should make everyone, including conservatives, nervous as hell in this situation.

And on a personal note, I'd like to state that it is currently my dream that we go through at least one Republican administration that doesn't drag us into war with someone. I mean for the love of god, we are barely even done with Iraq and Afghanistan!

[Virginiá]

Do conservatives actually trust Trump to lead America safely and effectively through a war with a country like North Korea? That's a serious question. We all have seen Trump behave, all the lies he tells, the erratic decision making, the knee-jerk reactions that had zero forethought. I get that I see Trump differently than a Republican does, but Trump's absurd, often-unhinged behavior should make everyone, including conservatives, nervous as hell in this situation.

And on a personal note, I'd like to state that it currently my dream that we go through at least one Republican administration that doesn't drag us into war with someone. I mean for the love of god, we are barely even done with Iraq and Afghanistan!

Iraq was entirely unnecessary. However, in this instance we actually do have an imminent and credible threat.

And the most clueless person we could possibly pick to handle it.

How can we expect a man who is notorious for having such a short-attention span that he can't even read a full presidential briefing, to actually make the right calls? He has no experience in government at all, and he refuses to actually do his homework on all these issues. He is legitimately clueless.

[Virginiá]

He isn't clueless if he's competent enough to become President of the United States. I'd rather call him clever.

You think winning an election, which was mostly him just getting on stage and rambling for hours, makes him qualified to execute the duties of POTUS? Come on Spark. Elections alone don't make people qualified for anything like that, particularly when the person has a habit of ignoring advice.

[Virginiá]

The only other solution would be to accept them as a nuclear power, but even then how can we be sure that they won't attack us? I think it is a very risky proposition IMO.

I guess you don't, but mutually assured destruction means even people like Kim are aware that use of a nuclear weapon would likely seal not only his fate but the fate of a large portion of his country. The United States could quite easily obliterate North Korea with just a tiny fraction of its nuclear weapons. NK leadership's inherent desire for self-preservation will take care of the rest.

Putting aside NK, something people are going to have to understand at some point or another is that as technology advances and becomes more widespread, it's going to be harder and harder to keep weapons of mass destruction in check, particularly for biological and chemical weapons. We aren't just going to be able to bomb the world into submission forever. I mean, what happens when/if Iran gets nuclear weapons? Or maybe Saudi Arabia if they feel it is necessary?