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BuckeyeNut
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« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2017, 10:05:49 PM »

To contradict some points I made in conversation with Chickenhawk, there is a possibility that it's about race. Say, if Nina Turner runs for Governor or something. And in the press conference where Ryan endorsed Harrison, so did Congresswoman Fudge.

Meanwhile, Mayor Whaley and Governor Strickland have endorsed Buttigieg.

So far the only Ohio DNC member on the record for Perez is ODP Chair Pepper.
Any word on where Sutton falls? She's looking like the strongest D after Ryan, since I think Cordray won't make it back in time to launch a campaign
She's certainly in the mix, but I haven't really heard anything substantial.
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« Reply #51 on: February 18, 2017, 02:00:02 PM »

As above. The Dem slate seems to be building to:

Governor: Schiavoni
AG: Dettelbach
SOS: Clyde
Treasurer: Leland
Auditor: Ritenauer

Very NEOH heavy. Pillich for LG might be a good choice. More balanced geographically, and on gender.
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« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2017, 07:53:41 AM »

Several things.

1: If Ryan is to be held to his timeline of "a couple of weeks," we should know his intentions by Thursday. An announcement is expected soon.
2: Speaking of timelines, the one I was given for Kucinnich was off, but buzz is building. When asked if he would run, Kucinnich did provide a Shermanesque statement.
3: Our Revolution is holding an organizing meeting for Nina Turner's hypothetical Gubernatorial bid. Like Kucinnich, Turner won't deny the possibility of running.
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« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2017, 11:08:39 AM »

Renacci under fire for being the most dodgy Ohio Congressman home over recess. Unlikely to negatively impact his campaign for Governor, if he launches one, but could be bad if he decides to run for re-election instead.
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« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2017, 12:54:45 PM »


Nothing yet, even though it's two weeks to the day he said a decision was coming in a "couple of weeks." News you want buried goes out on Friday, so maybe he'll announce on Monday.
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« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2017, 05:38:55 PM »

Yep. Official website and everything. I'm still surprised she has Kasich's official endorsement. That may carry less weight, but it's still meaningful, since she bucked Borges for Timken earlier.
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« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2017, 09:35:03 AM »

Democratic Party Chairman, David Pepper, is calling for potential gubernatorial candidates to "get on with it" since the unknown intentions of the bigwigs is keeping lesser known contenders from developing profiles.

Ryan's folks, even though it is now been more than a couple of weeks since is "couple of weeks" statement are saying a decision will come "soon" and Cordray's folks see May as the latest they can jump in to the race. Which means he needs to hurry up and get fired. The decisions of those two alone will seemingly finalize the decisions of Senator Schiavoni, Justice O'Neil, Mayor Williams, and Mayor Whaley. As for Sutton and Pillich, no one really seems to know what their decisions hinge on.
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« Reply #57 on: February 28, 2017, 11:18:55 AM »

Guess he felt the heat from Pepper.
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« Reply #58 on: February 28, 2017, 11:31:54 AM »

I'm sticking with what my gut has been telling me for some time now: it's going to be Schiavoni. Cordray really seems to prefer being a bureaucrat to being an elected.
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« Reply #59 on: February 28, 2017, 02:27:31 PM »

Lazy campaigner is ... not the worst Dems think of Sutton. Also, you've presented a major false equivalency, RJ. Cordray can't choose to leave his job, even if he wants to. Not that I'd be surprised if she ran, given her resignation.

Let's be honest he also isn't running because he wants to be a future speaker of the house

Was about to say, this is really the first major announcement of the 2018 Minority Leader contest.

Or hey, could be Speaker! Who hecking knows?
Personally I think it will be speaker, GOP is over streched, Trump is going full steam ahead on Obamacare repeal while also possiblely putting boots in the ground in Syria, and I just don't see were else the Bernie energy will go other than taking over the dems ala tea party

Why would Ds choose him over someone like Joe Crowley who has widespread support from the caucus?

Crowley's a good 11 years older than Ryan. They can both be minority leader/Speaker.

Just wish we had more Cory Gardners in the party, pols who aren't cowards and actually willing to sacrifice something in order to run.
Cory Gardner isn't in the party, period, thank God.

ION: Schiavoni to officially announce tomorrow.
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« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2017, 02:50:29 PM »

Lazy campaigner is ... not the worst Dems think of Sutton. Also, you've presented a major false equivalency, RJ. Cordray can't choose to leave his job, even if he wants to. Not that I'd be surprised if she ran, given her resignation.

Let's be honest he also isn't running because he wants to be a future speaker of the house

Was about to say, this is really the first major announcement of the 2018 Minority Leader contest.

Or hey, could be Speaker! Who hecking knows?
Personally I think it will be speaker, GOP is over streched, Trump is going full steam ahead on Obamacare repeal while also possiblely putting boots in the ground in Syria, and I just don't see were else the Bernie energy will go other than taking over the dems ala tea party

Why would Ds choose him over someone like Joe Crowley who has widespread support from the caucus?

Crowley's a good 11 years older than Ryan. They can both be minority leader/Speaker.

Just wish we had more Cory Gardners in the party, pols who aren't cowards and actually willing to sacrifice something in order to run.
Cory Gardner isn't in the party, period, thank God.

ION: Schiavoni to officially announce tomorrow.

Not to be a jerk, but why couldn't Cordray resign to run for office? It's a job not indentured servitude. If Cordray decided tomorrow he wanted to quit and come back and run for governor what is stopping him?

Sutton has her issues, but if she's in she's going to be ahead of Schiavoni or O'Neill as the favored candidate.

I misinterpreted some information about the nature of CFPB Director. It would still be in Cordray's best interest, if he wants to run for Governor, to be fired for standing up to Wall Street and the Trump administration than to resign.

I'm not sure where the lazy campaigner charge comes from. She won a very competitive Democratic primary in '06, and did very well against Renacci in a badly gerrymandered district in '12. However, she had the highest House staff turnover rate for a reason. If she runs, she might honestly have trouble maintaining a campaign apparatus.
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« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2017, 07:13:27 AM »

Sutton to make her intentions known next week.
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« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2017, 09:57:16 AM »

Hate to double post. But Palenda now officially in for SOS. This could get ugly, as Senator LaRose comes from an independently wealthy family. That said, he was scheduled to have fundraiser in D.C. tonight with Sean Spicer headlining, and Spicer was allegedly made to drop the event from his schedule due to LaRose being so critical of Trump early on. Palenda can probably play on that, regardless.
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« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2017, 10:01:50 PM »

Seeing more Sutton stuff throughout the day, and it sounds like she will jump in. Unfortunate. I'm not quite so down on her as X is, but I'm not a big fan.

As for Whaley, she and Cranley should stick to the jobs they're both going to be elected to this Fall. Assuming they make it through their primaries.

Hate to double post. But Palenda now officially in for SOS. This could get ugly, as Senator LaRose comes from an independently wealthy family. That said, he was scheduled to have fundraiser in D.C. tonight with Sean Spicer headlining, and Spicer was allegedly made to drop the event from his schedule due to LaRose being so critical of Trump early on. Palenda can probably play on that, regardless.
This'll be a fascinating dynamic - Trump deep-sixing potential rising stars like LaRose over their initial critiques of him. I think it could hurt the GOP in a lot of races
Yeah, it looks like we'll have at least one pretty clear cut Kasich-Trump proxy battle in the GOP primaries.
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« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2017, 10:21:57 PM »

Cordray is damaged goods unfortunately, the Republicans will tear him apart over CFPB mismanagement fair or not, Sutton has less baggage.

Cordray is well liked in Ohio, and his pro-gun record is a help. He'd be a better candidate than Sutton. His biggest Achilles heel may be deleted emails from his CFPB tenure.
I can already see the attack ads with his picture next to Hillary's...

That's the first thing that pops in my head as well.

The only interesting thing would be if DeWine were the nominee Cordray would get the NRA endorsement
Republicans were sending Ohio-specific emails attacking Cordray MONTHS ago.

Has the NRA endorsed any Democrats since 2010?
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« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2017, 11:30:01 PM »

Ohio is a must win state for the Dems after that nailbiter of election Dems had in Nov.  If Dems gain Ohio, then it will be impossible for Trump to secure a re-election victory.  I'm all in for Betty Sutton.
Ohio is by all means not a must win state for Dems. They will have more than enough electoral votes before Ohio becomes close.
Ohio's (still) a bellwether. It's not been a tipping point for some time.
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« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2017, 04:06:37 PM »

Sophomore Rep. Great Johnson (D-Akron) is resigning because she feels stymied by the working environment in the State House.

The Ohio House Democratic Caucus will get to choose her replacement. There shouldn't be a special election.
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« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2017, 06:45:57 PM »

Sophomore Rep. Great Johnson (D-Akron) is resigning because she feels stymied by the working environment in the State House.

The Ohio House Democratic Caucus will get to choose her replacement. There shouldn't be a special election.
Sykes or sawyer here we come
Vernon Sykes was just elected to the State Senate this past fall to replace Sawyer.

Hopefully we can get some fresh blood.
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« Reply #68 on: March 03, 2017, 11:52:15 PM »
« Edited: March 04, 2017, 12:02:24 AM by BuckeyeNut »

Sophomore Rep. Great Johnson (D-Akron) is resigning because she feels stymied by the working environment in the State House.

The Ohio House Democratic Caucus will get to choose her replacement. There shouldn't be a special election.
Sykes or sawyer here we come
Vernon Sykes was just elected to the State Senate this past fall to replace Sawyer.

Hopefully we can get some fresh blood.

Yeah... And his daughter took his place, just like his wife used to.

The summit dems have let one young person into the game in how long? And that was Johnson.
Vern Sykes is in the Senate. His daughter Emilia is in his old House Seat. Barbara, his wife, could go to the House again, but she lives in the same district as her daughter, so...

Sawyer's an option, but it's a sad thing to watch a former Congressman go (back) to the State House. That said, Boccieri's done it. With Schiavoni term limited out, he can hopefully make it back to the State Senate in '18.
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« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2017, 12:17:06 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2017, 01:04:44 PM by BuckeyeNut »

Rep. Rob Sprauge (R-Findlay) has announced a run for Treasurer.

And the Republican contenders all met in Cincinnati for a pancake breakfast. Taylor praised Trump for his EO on cutting regulations and emphasized Kasich's backing; DeWine praised Sessions as an old Senate ally and prosecutor; Husted avoided linking himself to Trump and made a pitch to de-escalate abortion rhetoric; and Renacci was basically left to introduce himself to a much wide audience than he's known in Congress, he played up his decision to run for Congress after the auto bailout didn't do enough for his dealership, and generally painted himself as a Trump-like business outsider.

EDIT: Nan Whaley is running opposed in her race for a second term as Mayor of Dayton, freeing up time and resources to run for Governor, if she so desires.
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« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2017, 02:23:20 PM »

Rep. Rob Sprauge (R-Findlay) has announced a run for Treasurer.

And the Republican contenders all met in Cincinnati for a pancake breakfast. Taylor praised Trump for his EO on cutting regulations and emphasized Kasich's backing; DeWine praised Sessions as an old Senate ally and prosecutor; Husted avoided linking himself to Trump and made a pitch to de-escalate abortion rhetoric; and Renacci was basically left to introduce himself to a much wide audience than he's known in Congress, he played up his decision to run for Congress after the auto bailout didn't do enough for his dealership, and generally painted himself as a Trump-like business outsider.

EDIT: Nan Whaley is running opposed in her race for a second term as Mayor of Dayton, freeing up time and resources to run for Governor, if she so desires.

Sprague vs. Mingo could turn out to be the most interesting primary.

Mingo has more skeletons in his closet than Newt Gingrich.
I think the Franklin County Republican Party would be sorely remiss if they let Mingo go. (Though he's clearly interested in running.) They only hold 3 county offices, and that includes Engineer, which is sort of a joke, as far as partisanship is concerned. A real backslide, since Dems really only started winning Franklin in '96.

What skeletons are you referring to, X?
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« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2017, 07:14:12 PM »

Rep. Rob Sprauge (R-Findlay) has announced a run for Treasurer.

And the Republican contenders all met in Cincinnati for a pancake breakfast. Taylor praised Trump for his EO on cutting regulations and emphasized Kasich's backing; DeWine praised Sessions as an old Senate ally and prosecutor; Husted avoided linking himself to Trump and made a pitch to de-escalate abortion rhetoric; and Renacci was basically left to introduce himself to a much wide audience than he's known in Congress, he played up his decision to run for Congress after the auto bailout didn't do enough for his dealership, and generally painted himself as a Trump-like business outsider.

EDIT: Nan Whaley is running opposed in her race for a second term as Mayor of Dayton, freeing up time and resources to run for Governor, if she so desires.

Sprague vs. Mingo could turn out to be the most interesting primary.

Mingo has more skeletons in his closet than Newt Gingrich.
I think the Franklin County Republican Party would be sorely remiss if they let Mingo go. (Though he's clearly interested in running.) They only hold 3 county offices, and that includes Engineer, which is sort of a joke, as far as partisanship is concerned. A real backslide, since Dems really only started winning Franklin in '96.

What skeletons are you referring to, X?

Does anyone care if the Franklin co party holds any office other than prosecutor? Particularly vs. having a favorable ear running a statewide agency's?

And he has a ton of skeletons, I won't trade in rumors but they are there.
I don't want to encourage the rumor trade, but if there's anything that's been serious to write about in the Dispatch, it's probably worth discussing. (Not that I can find anything so serious.)
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« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2017, 01:42:13 AM »
« Edited: March 13, 2017, 11:40:15 AM by BuckeyeNut »

Sutton is officially in with an announcement later today.
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« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2017, 03:18:30 PM »

Schiavoni's money problem is deceptive. He may not have a lot in the bank himself, but that's because he was doing a lot of fundraising for the Senate Democrats. People like Lou Gentile and Cathy Johnson. He's got good contacts.
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« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2017, 09:57:42 PM »

Schiavoni's money problem is deceptive. He may not have a lot in the bank himself, but that's because he was doing a lot of fundraising for the Senate Democrats. People like Lou Gentile and Cathy Johnson. He's got good contacts.
And the senate hasn't been fundraising powers.

But more importantly, he has contacts but not the level of Sutton, who will tap into DC, State, and Obama network contacts better

Actually, I'd argue Schiavoni has better contacts than Sutton, at least among Ohio Democrats.
I'd argue that's definitely not the case, she's raised more money, has more contacts in Cleveland and Akron and has been around the game longer, she also matches Schiavoni in labor times with her long time as a labor lawyer. Schiavoni knows more people in cap square but those folks haven't been giving to dems recently.
I'm with X. Schiavoni knows more people across the state, period. Sutton benefits from more national contacts, but the last thing people want now is a beltway insider.
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