SB 2017-135: Gun Control Expansion Act of 2017 (Debating)

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This bill also bans individuals on the no fly list from purchasing guns, which will help prevent terrorists from acquiring weapons.

You do realize that everyday, law-abiding citizens accidentally end up on the no fly list, right? It is actually pretty easy, and in most cases, does not require any actual proof of wrongdoing.

So what you are literally suggesting here is trampling on the rights of someone without due process that is often times not even based on any actual evidence to support them being on the list to begin with, and pretending that it's because of "public safety".

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It should also be worth noting that only a small percentage of mass shootings actually involve an assault weapon (using your definition). So even if you were to ban them (which I will note, I refuse to support), you are doing very little to actually stop mass shootings from happening.

And if that garbage "buyback program" is anything like the one that was recently(ish) proposed in Fremont, no one in their right mind would be willing to consent to that.

Edit: missed the portion where it is a buyback for the full cost of the weapon, which honestly is also bad. We are looking at a very large deficit budget-wise, and I do not think it is wise to make that even bigger so that we can illegally buy people's guns and destroy them. Where do you think that money is supposed to come from? What makes you think people will just willingly fork over their personal property?

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I am all for the rights of Atlasians to own handguns and hunting weapons

http://time.com/4390506/gun-control-ar-15-semiautomatic-rifles/

https://www.realtree.com/brow-tines-and-backstrap/why-you-should-use-an-ar-15-as-a-deer-rifle

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2013/06/12/hunting-ar-15/

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Whew. Sounds like some people really need some weed.

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I'd like to ask for anyone who thinks this legislation is even remotely sensible:

1. Do you know anything about hunting/have you ever been hunting?
2. Do you own a firearm?
3. Have you ever operated a firearm?
4. Have you even been in the same room as a firearm?
5. If you answered no to at least two of the above questions, what would you consider makes you knowledgeable enough to vote in favor of this legislation?

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Semiautomatic rifles (most new designs) also reduce recoil whichis ideal for newer/smaller hunters. No reason to limit hunting to just burly men with 10 yrs hunting experience.

This. I'm 5'1" IRL. And while I have experience hunting and own an older gun that doesn't fit this description, someone else like me with less experience, or even a child learning to hunt (for reference here, I first learned to shoot when I was 12), it is much much safer to learn on newer semiautomatic rifles than how I learned how to do it.

I mean this is supposed to be about safety, right?

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I know about the whole "good guy with a gun" argument,

That's nice, but had nothing to do with what I said.

I am opposed to taking firearms away from law abiding citizens. But it is in my opinion that no law abiding citizen has any use for large capacity magazine weapons, in the same way that law abiding citizens have no use for bombs.

What you are supporting is exactly taking firearms away from law abiding citizens. The vast majority of gun owners, especially ones who own assault weapons, are not harming anyone. And I laid out a very practical use for them that average people use them for. It shouldn't be this hard to get someone to take off their blinders and actually think, rather than use their emotions to make decisions. And it's all fine and dandy that you have your opinion on the matter, but laws shouldn't be based on opinions, it should be based on facts (which currently are not on your side).

This is a public safety concern.

Oh, is that what this is about?
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/sunday-review/the-assault-weapon-myth.html

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TL;DR: It's great that you care so much about public safety and want to do some good. But to put it in the simplest terms possible: You're doing it wrong.