Update Season VII: "The OK Corral"

[Joe Biden 2020]

Wait, so what are you going to wear for a month while your clothes are all packed up?

These are just the supplies.  We pack the personal items on our own later.

Yeah, God forbid you buy supplies from the local merchants and actually contribute to the local economy.  We need the cracker brigade to parachute in to save the day.

We do buy some supplies down there at the "Nakumat" which is Kenya's version of Walmart, especially the liquid or gel products, but they don't have all the supplies we are looking for, so we're taking a few supplies with us.

[Joe Biden 2020]

What sort of supplies? Medical stuff? Suitcases full of Bibles?

A lot of medical supplies, women's tampons/maxi pads, school supplies, clothes, children's books, etc.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Wait, so what are you going to wear for a month while your clothes are all packed up?

These are just the supplies.  We pack the personal items on our own later.

Yeah, God forbid you buy supplies from the local merchants and actually contribute to the local economy.  We need the cracker brigade to parachute in to save the day.

We do buy some supplies down there at the "Nakumat" which is Kenya's version of Walmart, especially the liquid or gel products, but they don't have all the supplies we are looking for, so we're taking a few supplies with us.

You know what my above statement is unfair. The real useless cargo is a plane load of Oklahomans spending thousands of dollars and burning through untold fossils fuel to go to Kenya in the first place... to do what exactly?  Feel better about themselves.  I don't question the motivation of you all but rather the effectiveness.  You really could be helping in other ways.

There are some cases where hands-on work is more effective than money.  Love is best expressed through physical interaction and touching, not a checkbook.  We can't help the workers build by money alone.  They need physical labor.  All money does is fund such projects.  The church families of the travelers are the ones who raise the money to fund the projects.

The Bible calls us to be the hands and feet of Christ on this earth, not just the checkbook of Christ.  The Apostle James says that true religion is caring for the widows and the orphans.  We are Christians, so we follow the Christian Holy Book, the Bible.  It's like a Muslim would be following the Quran for his expeditions, or a Jew would be following the Torah.  When I was a child at church (the same church where I'm an Associate Pastor/Church Clerk now), on the wall of one of the Sunday School rooms had a photograph of a child and the caption said "She needs your time, not just your money."

[Joe Biden 2020]

I don't believe that story.  You updated about the forum about your headache practically every hour to 90 minutes, yet you didn't mention something we'd been harping on you for?  That's not like you.

Be honest (and keep in mind that a few days ago, you were claiming that you didn't have a problem with compulsive lying).  Are you telling the 100% truth right now (and that means no dishonest omissions)?  If not, then that's a pretty sad problem, because you'd then be lying about lying, which would really say something about the condition you're really in.

So... if you're lying, just admit it now, because that story really doesn't fit with your usual habits.

No, the story is 100% accurate.  Yes, I did have a headache, but I still was able to talk to them.  The chat only took 15 minutes.  I didn't mention it on here at the time, because I wanted to let it soak in for a few days first.  I was about to post it this evening, until you asked about it.

In that case, your parents are either really careless about their money or really naive about you.  If I found out I let my kids have money because they "needed" it, and then they blew it on whatever useless stuff, they'd be paying me back instantly and never getting money again.

They just have a different approach to this type of thing.

A different approach to being defrauded by their son multiple times?  Yes, clearly they have a different, atypical approach to dealing with you and your issues.  I'm guessing that their "different approach" is part of the reason that your problems have progressed to be as severe as they are.

I'm not really sure how you can defend them (other from a selfish viewpoint), because you have not learned any lesson here, so what's to stop you from going back to porn on their dime in another 2 months?

I can't defend them, really.

What's to stop me from going back? I don't know, maybe focus on a new goal.

In case you haven't noticed, Inks, I've moved on to a different subject, something that is much more worthwhile and that would be very good for me, I believe.

Ahh yes... the focus is once again on you.  The better thing would be to stop focusing on what would be "very good" for you and pay attention to how your actions affect other people.  You may have moved on to a new topic, but you haven't changed any of your base habits, and those are what are the major problems.  Sure, you may not be defrauding your parents for porn anymore, but it's only a matter of time before you defraud them for some other purpose.  It's a pattern we've seen before.

Well, this is the Update thread.  I created the Update thread to be an update about my life.  I provide updates as to what's going on.  Discussion is fine and welcome, but griping that I'm updating rather than discussing is rather bizarre considering the purpose of this thread.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Out of the Doctor.  He gave me a referral to the Indian Dietician and Wellness Center.  One of the perks of being an Indian I just found out is a free gym, free athletic trainer, free Dietician!!

You're not an Indian.  And once again, you're defrauding people who actually need these resources, based on a technicality.  The fact that you're excited about it is pretty sickening.

You're right, I am mostly white and the Indian Medicine is not based on me.  It is based on my Indian Heritage and that my heritage is really fairly recent, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  That's only what 100-125 years?  When you're talking about the history of civilization, one century is a drop in the bucket.  Why shouldn't I be able to benefit from my family heritage?  Isn't that what an inheritance is?

[Joe Biden 2020]

History and Political Science are real academic fields (I have no idea what a "philanthropy" degree is...). They're not at all comparable to a degree in ecommerce.

Still, E-Commerce was a legitimate degree offered by a legitimate university, and it took 6 years of hard work to get it!

And the football players who major in Communications work hard for their degrees (I watched a kid struggle and still fail Introductions to Interpretive Reading), but it doesn't mean they have a real degree.  Sure, they have a piece of paper that says "Bachelor of Arts", but it really doesn't mean anything.

I don't disagree that it hasn't done me any good, but it doesn't mean it can't work for me in the future.  The NWOSU web page that was linked here a few pages back has about 30-40 different careers that an E-Commerce degree can be used for.  It's far from a useless degree.

[Joe Biden 2020]

I want to be honest, I am still praying about what God wants me to do.  The one thing I do know, if God wants the door open, no one can shut it.  If God wants the door shut, no one can open it.  I'm going to knock on the door to see if the door opens.  If it doesn't open, then I know it's not the right door.  While I am applying with the Peace Corps, I will also be starting to raise the $5,000 necessary to spend the Summer 2015 in Kenya.  If I am accepted into the Peace Corps, then I will return all the money that has been donated.  If I am not accepted into the Peace Corps, then I will already have started preparing to go to Kenya.  I am going to approach the proverbial door and knock on Sunday, September 1, 2013.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Out of the Doctor.  He gave me a referral to the Indian Dietician and Wellness Center.  One of the perks of being an Indian I just found out is a free gym, free athletic trainer, free Dietician!!

You're not an Indian.  And once again, you're defrauding people who actually need these resources, based on a technicality.  The fact that you're excited about it is pretty sickening.

You're right, I am mostly white and the Indian Medicine is not based on me.  It is based on my Indian Heritage and that my heritage is really fairly recent, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  That's only what 100-125 years?  When you're talking about the history of civilization, one century is a drop in the bucket.  Why shouldn't I be able to benefit from my family heritage?  Isn't that what an inheritance is?

Only 1/32nd of your DNA is Indian.  The Indian medicine should only be used for that part of you.  The other 31/32nds of your DNA should apply for Medicaid.

I don't believe I would qualify for Medicaid.  Native American Tribes are uber rich thanks to all the tribal casinos which there are many.  I'm not exactly draining their funds.  Plus, I feel better taking advantage of what my family tree allows me to take advantage of rather than draining Medicaid funds which I doubt is any near as wealthy as most Indian tribes.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Out of the Doctor.  He gave me a referral to the Indian Dietician and Wellness Center.  One of the perks of being an Indian I just found out is a free gym, free athletic trainer, free Dietician!!

You're not an Indian.  And once again, you're defrauding people who actually need these resources, based on a technicality.  The fact that you're excited about it is pretty sickening.

You're right, I am mostly white and the Indian Medicine is not based on me.  It is based on my Indian Heritage and that my heritage is really fairly recent, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  That's only what 100-125 years?  When you're talking about the history of civilization, one century is a drop in the bucket.  Why shouldn't I be able to benefit from my family heritage?  Isn't that what an inheritance is?

Only 1/32nd of your DNA is Indian.  The Indian medicine should only be used for that part of you.  The other 31/32nds of your DNA should apply for Medicaid.

I don't believe I would qualify for Medicaid.  Native American Tribes are uber rich thanks to all the tribal casinos which there are many.  I'm not exactly draining their funds.  Plus, I feel better taking advantage of what my family tree allows me to take advantage of rather than draining Medicaid funds which I doubt is any near as wealthy as most Indian tribes.

Have you done anything to celebrate your Native American heritage other than use the free medical services?  Do you personally know anyone who identifies as Native American, or participate in their culture at all?

I go to the Potawatomi Family Festival (formerly called the "Pow-Wow") during the last weekend of June (except for this year, of course).  On Festival Saturday, the Indian Clinic is open for the only time on a Saturday of the entire year.  The clinic is generally open from 8:00-12:00; 12:45-16:30 Monday-Friday.

One of my good friends from church also is a Potawatomi, less than I am, and attends the Festival each or most years.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Well driving through Oklahoma you do see a lot of Indian casinos. And sadness. Mostly sadness.

I have never seen the Casinos devoid of cars at all.  It always looks packed, except for maybe 9 or 10 in the morning which is not gambling time.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Well, folks, it is 1:00 am Wednesday Morning and I am headed to bed.

[Joe Biden 2020]

I don't believe that story.  You updated about the forum about your headache practically every hour to 90 minutes, yet you didn't mention something we'd been harping on you for?  That's not like you.

Be honest (and keep in mind that a few days ago, you were claiming that you didn't have a problem with compulsive lying).  Are you telling the 100% truth right now (and that means no dishonest omissions)?  If not, then that's a pretty sad problem, because you'd then be lying about lying, which would really say something about the condition you're really in.

So... if you're lying, just admit it now, because that story really doesn't fit with your usual habits.

No, the story is 100% accurate.  Yes, I did have a headache, but I still was able to talk to them.  The chat only took 15 minutes.  I didn't mention it on here at the time, because I wanted to let it soak in for a few days first.  I was about to post it this evening, until you asked about it.

In that case, your parents are either really careless about their money or really naive about you.  If I found out I let my kids have money because they "needed" it, and then they blew it on whatever useless stuff, they'd be paying me back instantly and never getting money again.

They just have a different approach to this type of thing.

A different approach to being defrauded by their son multiple times?  Yes, clearly they have a different, atypical approach to dealing with you and your issues.  I'm guessing that their "different approach" is part of the reason that your problems have progressed to be as severe as they are.

I'm not really sure how you can defend them (other from a selfish viewpoint), because you have not learned any lesson here, so what's to stop you from going back to porn on their dime in another 2 months?

I can't defend them, really.

What's to stop me from going back? I don't know, maybe focus on a new goal.

In case you haven't noticed, Inks, I've moved on to a different subject, something that is much more worthwhile and that would be very good for me, I believe.

Ahh yes... the focus is once again on you.  The better thing would be to stop focusing on what would be "very good" for you and pay attention to how your actions affect other people.  You may have moved on to a new topic, but you haven't changed any of your base habits, and those are what are the major problems.  Sure, you may not be defrauding your parents for porn anymore, but it's only a matter of time before you defraud them for some other purpose.  It's a pattern we've seen before.

Well, this is the Update thread.  I created the Update thread to be an update about my life.  I provide updates as to what's going on.  Discussion is fine and welcome, but griping that I'm updating rather than discussing is rather bizarre considering the purpose of this thread.

You know very well that's not what I meant.  I didn't mean you shouldn't update about your life.  But did you ever think to do things in your life that would repay your parents for all that they've done for you?

I have asked them if I should repay them.  Their response was that repayment to them would not come monetarily, but it would come by making something of my life, following my dreams, and basically getting out from under their nickel.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Everyone here needs to get over the whole Indian healthcare thing. What is he supposed to do? Refuse free health coverage? That'd be pretty idiotic considering his financial situation.

He could afford health coverage if he used his money in a rational way.

You mean his dad's money? He has zero income.

Exactly.  If I were to pay for all my medicine myself, I would be paying at least $500 per month, not to mention copays and lab work, etc.  Do you want me to rob my parents of more money by making them pay for my healthcare, too?

[Joe Biden 2020]

BaconKing's GIFs are the best part of this thread.

Also, can we discuss how it took SIX YEARS to get a degree in ECOMMERCE? What's up with that, Bushie?

It's kind of funny, I graduated high school on May 21, 2001.  9 days later I moved into the Dormitory at NWOSU.  I started my first class on June 4, 2001.  I went both Summers 2001 and 2002, as well as fall and spring through May 2003.  I took a break in Summer 2003, then worked through Summer 2004.  I thought I had finished my degree in December 2004 and I even walked across the stage.  However, thanks to a horrible oversight, I got to looking at my transcript and I was still lacking one or two classes.  I should have stayed Spring 2005 and I would have gotten it done in the traditional 4 years.  So, in Spring 2005, I took a class at a JuCo down here in Oklahoma City and went to UCO in Fall 2005, but failed that class due to laziness and just not understanding the class at all.  I took a break in Spring 2006, before I went back to Alva in Fall 2006 and finished it up, finally in Spring 2007.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Why can't Bushie apply for welfare and live off a welfare check for the rest of his life? At this point it's probably too late for him to 'do something with his life'.

I refuse to give up that easy!

[Joe Biden 2020]

I don't believe that story.  You updated about the forum about your headache practically every hour to 90 minutes, yet you didn't mention something we'd been harping on you for?  That's not like you.

Be honest (and keep in mind that a few days ago, you were claiming that you didn't have a problem with compulsive lying).  Are you telling the 100% truth right now (and that means no dishonest omissions)?  If not, then that's a pretty sad problem, because you'd then be lying about lying, which would really say something about the condition you're really in.

So... if you're lying, just admit it now, because that story really doesn't fit with your usual habits.

No, the story is 100% accurate.  Yes, I did have a headache, but I still was able to talk to them.  The chat only took 15 minutes.  I didn't mention it on here at the time, because I wanted to let it soak in for a few days first.  I was about to post it this evening, until you asked about it.

In that case, your parents are either really careless about their money or really naive about you.  If I found out I let my kids have money because they "needed" it, and then they blew it on whatever useless stuff, they'd be paying me back instantly and never getting money again.

They just have a different approach to this type of thing.

A different approach to being defrauded by their son multiple times?  Yes, clearly they have a different, atypical approach to dealing with you and your issues.  I'm guessing that their "different approach" is part of the reason that your problems have progressed to be as severe as they are.

I'm not really sure how you can defend them (other from a selfish viewpoint), because you have not learned any lesson here, so what's to stop you from going back to porn on their dime in another 2 months?

I can't defend them, really.

What's to stop me from going back? I don't know, maybe focus on a new goal.

In case you haven't noticed, Inks, I've moved on to a different subject, something that is much more worthwhile and that would be very good for me, I believe.

Ahh yes... the focus is once again on you.  The better thing would be to stop focusing on what would be "very good" for you and pay attention to how your actions affect other people.  You may have moved on to a new topic, but you haven't changed any of your base habits, and those are what are the major problems.  Sure, you may not be defrauding your parents for porn anymore, but it's only a matter of time before you defraud them for some other purpose.  It's a pattern we've seen before.

Well, this is the Update thread.  I created the Update thread to be an update about my life.  I provide updates as to what's going on.  Discussion is fine and welcome, but griping that I'm updating rather than discussing is rather bizarre considering the purpose of this thread.

You know very well that's not what I meant.  I didn't mean you shouldn't update about your life.  But did you ever think to do things in your life that would repay your parents for all that they've done for you?

I have asked them if I should repay them.  Their response was that repayment to them would not come monetarily, but it would come by making something of my life, following my dreams, and basically getting out from under their nickel.

OK, so they're just really really naïve then.

Resorting to attacking my parents and questioning their parenting skills, eh?  Nice move.

I'm not going to lower myself to answer this question.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Everyone here needs to get over the whole Indian healthcare thing. What is he supposed to do? Refuse free health coverage? That'd be pretty idiotic considering his financial situation.

He could afford health coverage if he used his money in a rational way.

You mean his dad's money? He has zero income.

Exactly.  If I were to pay for all my medicine myself, I would be paying at least $500 per month, not to mention copays and lab work, etc.  Do you want me to rob my parents of more money by making them pay for my healthcare, too?

False dilemma

Why are you attacking my Indian heritage?  Do you refuse to listen to the other posters that question what I would do without it?  It seems like you WANT me to fail and WANT me to go broke.  I know that's not your intention, but it sure seems like it.

If you don't like the fact I get free health care, then take it up with the Citizen Potawatomi Nation themselves.  Don't blame me and don't yell at me for their policies.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Why can't Bushie apply for welfare and live off a welfare check for the rest of his life? At this point it's probably too late for him to 'do something with his life'.

I refuse to give up that easy!

You gave up walking pretty easily.

So, I'm a horrible, disgusting person, a quitter, a cheat, a thief, among other things.  Any other gems you want to throw out while we're at it?

[Joe Biden 2020]

Inks, I know you think you're so much better than me and you never make mistakes, but do you have to rub it in my face every single post you make?

You are one good comedian!!

[Joe Biden 2020]

Bushie you should just ignore Inks' hateful personal attacks. If he weren't a moderator they would have surely earned him enough infraction points to be put on mod review or even banned by now.

Probably true.  I know he has really good intentions behind his posts, but you're right, I should really just ignore them.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Inks, I know you think you're so much better than me and you never make mistakes, but do you have to rub it in my face every single post you make?

You are one good comedian!!

Are you ready for lunch!?

Actually, yes I am!  I haven't had anything all day!

[Joe Biden 2020]

Inks, I know you think you're so much better than me and you never make mistakes, but do you have to rub it in my face every single post you make?

You are one good comedian!!

Are you ready for lunch!?

Actually, yes I am!  I haven't had anything all day!

It didn't go over my head.  I knew what he was getting at.  I was making a light hearted comment in response.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Sadly, Jeff, you responded to the least important of my posts.... as usual.

It's the only answer you're going to get!

[Joe Biden 2020]

What are you gonna eat today, Bushie? Will it be somewhat healthy at least?

To be honest, doubtful.  I'm probably going to go by McDonald's on my to my cousins.  I'm riding with my cousin to a high school graduation tonight.

[Joe Biden 2020]

What are you gonna eat today, Bushie? Will it be somewhat healthy at least?

To be honest, doubtful.  I'm probably going to go by McDonald's on my to my cousins.  I'm riding with my cousin to a high school graduation tonight.

This makes Baby Jesus cry.

I'm not going to go overboard at McDonald's, but I'm going to get enough to where I quit feeling hungry.