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A18
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« on: November 07, 2004, 05:45:21 PM »
The more interesting question is how the elecction would have looked without the Iraq war.
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A18
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2004, 02:05:23 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2004, 02:07:01 PM by Philip »
The majority of Kerry voters believe the upper class pays a lower percentage of their income than the middle class.

You want to talk about naive ignorants, let's start there.

By the way, nice job spelling Saddam wrong three times in a row.
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2004, 04:05:24 PM »
Any evidence to back up that claim?
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2004, 04:25:11 PM »
Still waiting for you to back up your claim that European quality of life is better.
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2004, 04:33:04 PM »
Okay everyone. Here's what's better about the United States.

Better pay, MUCH longer vacations, fewer work hours, better medical care, better food, better transportation options, stronger currency, better and more available education, more personal freedoms.

Anyone can say that. I'm looking for hard facts, or at least a subjective explanation.
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2004, 04:47:20 PM »
It depends who you are. Obviously labor is going to be better off in socialist Europe.
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A18
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2004, 04:50:34 PM »
Life expectancy is utterly meaningless.
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A18
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2004, 04:55:58 PM »
Leave myself to me. You're having a hard enough time making your life worth something.

Management and labor aren't the only two categories of people.

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Relative term. To me, the Democrats are socialist.
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A18
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2004, 04:57:12 PM »
The key to how advanced and modern a country is is how advanced and modern a country is.
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A18
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2004, 05:01:01 PM »
So a computer programer is 'labor' in Opebo world?

Shira -- try to explain HOW life expectancy has anything to do with how advanced a country is
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A18
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2004, 05:21:06 PM »
I'm talking about labor as in McDonalds. Not computer programming, which offers a much higher quality of life.
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A18
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2004, 05:31:38 PM »
The point is, people working at a European McDonalds are probably better off. Europe's computer programmers, on the other hand, are not - it varies from skill level to skill level, company to company.

Most people don't spend their life as a Burger King employee.
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A18
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2004, 05:41:48 PM »
Yes, that's worth pointing out because computer programmer is absolutely the only type of job that pays better than McDonalds.
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A18
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2004, 06:04:19 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2004, 06:19:14 PM by Philip »
There's nothing wrong with 15% of the population not having health insurance.

Powerful drug companies are as powerful as consumers choose to make them. No more, no less.
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A18
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2004, 06:27:49 PM »
That's like saying you don't have a choice not to buy food. The point is, you aren't stuck with any particular company.

Why is it wrong for 15% of the population to not have health insurance? I certainly don't need any.
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