TN-SEN: Return of the Bredi

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I know it has not been mentionned but what about Tipper Gore, Karenna Gore or Kristin Gore for the Democrats?

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I know it has not been mentionned but what about Tipper Gore, Karenna Gore or Kristin Gore for the Democrats?

Karenna lives in NY, Kristin in LA.

And Tipper?

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I know it has not been mentionned but what about Tipper Gore, Karenna Gore or Kristin Gore for the Democrats?

Karenna lives in NY, Kristin in LA.

And Tipper?

According to Wikipedia, she lives in Santa Barbara, CA.

And yet, if I'm not wrong, Carly Fiorina lived in Virginia but she still ran for Senator in California in 2010.

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So if Bob Corker retires, does that mean, according to the rankings in the following Senate Committees, that Jim Risch would replace Corker as Chair of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, that Marco Rubio would replace Jim Risch as Chair of the U.S. Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship, etc. ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Committee_on_Small_Business_and_Entrepreneurship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Committee_on_Foreign_Relations

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Here's what could help Marsha Blackburn in the senate race in Tennessee against Phil Bredesen : Bredesen's ties with the disgraced Nashville Mayor Megan Barry who was involved in an extramarital affair with her bodyguard.

https://www.nbcnews.com/card/how-nashville-mayor-s-resignation-could-hurt-phil-bredesen-n854111

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Here's what could help Marsha Blackburn in the senate race in Tennessee against Phil Bredesen : Bredesen's ties with the disgraced Nashville Mayor Megan Barry who was involved in an extramarital affair with her bodyguard.

https://www.nbcnews.com/card/how-nashville-mayor-s-resignation-could-hurt-phil-bredesen-n854111

Or you could just support the experienced governor who governed as center-right instead of supporting a far right ideologue, but I guess not voting on purely party lines is too hard for some people

Center-right? A man like Bredesen who proposed coal mining limits and vetoed allowing guns in bars during his time as governor? The moreover that the Cato Institute, a fiscally conservative institute, rated him only 53 % on overall fiscal policy score, 57 % on spending and 56 % on taxes. All of this falls more within the parameters of a liberal.

http://archive.knoxnews.com/business/bredesen-proposes-coal-mining-limits-ep-410234349-359501841.html/

https://votesmart.org/bill/11521/33476/22392/guns-in-bars#.Ws-3VX_A_IU

https://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/22392/phil-bredesen#.Ws-4oH_A_IU

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I guess Blackburn could take the advantage over Bredesen by slamming him on his record on taxes since he raised taxes close to $1 billion during his time as Governor, which could label him as « too liberal for Tennessee ».

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2009/aug/16/taxes-millions-under-bredesen/231046/

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2010/dec/28/bredesen-tax-legacy-may-be-tough-act-to-follow/37946/

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I guess Blackburn could take the advantage over Bredesen by slamming him on his record on taxes since he raised taxes close to $1 billion during his time as Governor, which could label him as « too liberal for Tennessee ».

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2009/aug/16/taxes-millions-under-bredesen/231046/

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2010/dec/28/bredesen-tax-legacy-may-be-tough-act-to-follow/37946/

He had a 70% approval in his tenure as governor. Clearly people realized the tax raises were important.

Why can't you accept that Bredi is a reasonable guy and a fantastic governor lol.

I didn't say otherwise. It's just that a Bredesen victory would increase the likelyhood of a Democratic senate take-over.

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https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/988053018464669696?tfw_site=proboards&...

Then he can't be wanting Bredesen to win.
Corker won’t even say Blackburn’s name in this interview with Dana Bash.

No surprise here.... Blackburn is dumb as hell

Corker low key wants Bredeseen to win a and we all know it.

Then why did he donate money to Blackburn?

Because he's still a party hack.

So he can't be wanting Bredesen to win.

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This race is still a Tossup. However, Bredesen maintains a small edge as of now.

I don't get the Ted Strickland comparisons. The assumption is that Strickland got blown-out because he was a former governor? No, it was because his campaign was a joke. Bredesen can easily win if he doesn't make the same mistake.

For the record, I wanted comparable numbers to prove Bredesen is different. Sure enough, Strickland was at -6% approval in May of 2016.

I know we are not in July yet, but in July 2016, Evan Bayh was leading in Indiana by 21 percentage points so if Bredesen is leading by 3 percentage points now Blackburn has a quite decent chance to defeat Bredesen in November.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Indiana,_2016#Polling_2

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I do expect Bredesen to get the same sort of treatment as Bayh (aka millions of dollars of attack ads) because the obvious route is to make him toxic to republican/independent groups.

The thing people keep forgetting about Strickland's 2016 campaign is that Rob Portman ran a superb campaign. Not only did he raise an absolute ton, have an amazing field game but he created himself as just an average suburban guy who happens to be a republican. (Despite being rather conservative) There's a reason why Portman outrun Trump.

If Bill Haslam, or even Bob Corker was running for this Seat we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

It was also because Strickland had a poor record when it comes to the economy when he was Governor. Under his governorship, Ohio lost 350 000 jobs and was ranked 48th among the 50 states in terms of job creation. In addition, Strickland voted twice in favor of granting China its most-favored-nation status.

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Here's what could help Blackburn against Bredesen : during Bredesen's time as Governor (2003-2011), he raised taxes by nearly $1 billion and here's the result. It caused an increase of unemployment in Tennessee from 5.6 % in 2003 to 9 % in 2011 while getting at its highest rate in 2009 which was 10.5 %. I think that's a good hit for Blackburn to describe Bredesen as too liberal for Tennessee.

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2010/dec/28/bredesen-tax-legacy-may-be-tough-act-to-follow/37946/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190725/unemployment-rate-in-tennessee-since-1992/

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Here's what could help Blackburn against Bredesen : during Bredesen's time as Governor (2003-2011), he raised taxes by nearly $1 billion and here's the result. It caused an increase of unemployment in Tennessee from 5.6 % in 2003 to 9 % in 2011 while getting at its highest rate in 2009 which was 10.5 %. I think that's a good hit for Blackburn to describe Bredesen as too liberal for Tennessee.

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2010/dec/28/bredesen-tax-legacy-may-be-tough-act-to-follow/37946/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190725/unemployment-rate-in-tennessee-since-1992/

I mean, such a raise in unemployment is pretty similar to what was seen throughout the country with the recession, right?

An argument similar to mine was successful in defeating Ted Strickland during the Ohio senate race in 2016 since under Strickland has, during his time as Governor of Ohio (2006-2010), raised taxes to the tune of $840 million, Ohio lost over 250 000 jobs and was ranked as the 48th state in terms of job creation, raising the unemployment rate from 5.6 % in 2007 to 10.3 % in 2010. Despite the fact hat it's partly caused by the financial crisis, this record is one of the reasons why Rob Portman defeated Strickland in a landslide and by 20 percentage points. If that worked in Ohio it can also work in Tennessee.

https://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2010/oct/13/john-kasich/gop-challengers-labels-ohio-gov-ted-stricklands-ta/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190710/unemployment-rate-in-ohio-since-1992/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Ohio,_2016#Endorsements_3

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Here's what could help Blackburn against Bredesen : during Bredesen's time as Governor (2003-2011), he raised taxes by nearly $1 billion and here's the result. It caused an increase of unemployment in Tennessee from 5.6 % in 2003 to 9 % in 2011 while getting at its highest rate in 2009 which was 10.5 %. I think that's a good hit for Blackburn to describe Bredesen as too liberal for Tennessee.

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2010/dec/28/bredesen-tax-legacy-may-be-tough-act-to-follow/37946/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190725/unemployment-rate-in-tennessee-since-1992/

I mean, such a raise in unemployment is pretty similar to what was seen throughout the country with the recession, right?

An argument similar to mine was successful in defeating Ted Strickland during the Ohio senate race in 2016 since under Strickland has, during his time as Governor of Ohio (2006-2010), raised taxes to the tune of $840 million, Ohio lost over 250 000 jobs and was ranked as the 48th state in terms of job creation, raising the unemployment rate from 5.6 % in 2007 to 10.3 % in 2010. That is one of the reasons why Rob Portman defeated Strickland in a landslide and by
20 percentage points.

https://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2010/oct/13/john-kasich/gop-challengers-labels-ohio-gov-ted-stricklands-ta/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190710/unemployment-rate-in-ohio-since-1992/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Ohio,_2016#Endorsements_3

But that was probably not the main reason Ted lost. I can say that Martha lost in 2010 because she hated pickup trucks, but that is not the main reason. Ted lost most of his support from the Democratic Party, and was constantly underfunded after Portman began to increase his lead. It does not help that Trump won the state of OH by a large margin, which helped to pad out Portman's margin. Retreads also did rather poorly in 2016.

Very few races are decided by one issue.

For Trump to win so big in Ohio it was because of his focus on the loss of manufacturing jobs and to his promise to bring coal jobs back. Plus the 2016 Republican National Convention was held in Cleveland.

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Trump won big in Ohio due to flameout of former gov Ted Strickland

By the way, I think it was also because Clinton campaigned much less in Ohio than Trump did apparently.

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By the way, the first senate debate between Bredesen and Blackburn takes place tonight at 6 pm.

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The second senate debate between Bredesen and Blackburn will take place in Knoxville. I guess it could give an advantage for Blackburn with a more conservative audience in a county that Trump won by 24 percentage points in 2016 and that is more urban than the Wilson County (where the Cumberland University, the location of their first round took place).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knox_County,_Tennessee#Government

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By the way, the first senate debate between Bredesen and Blackburn takes place tonight at 6 pm.

I saw the last half of that, and Bredesen definitely did a good job presenting himself as an independent minded person who would represent the interests of Tennessee rather than his party, in contrast to Blackburn.  Blackburn is an attractive woman though and I think Bredesen going too negative against her could backfire.   And Bredesen's support for abortion could sink him, but I don't know if Blackburn is making that an issue in the campaign.

Doug Jones was unapologetically pro-choice, and he won.  Tennessee has two major urban cores (Nashville and Memphis) that are much more populous than Alabama's major urban core (Birmingam).

Jones only won because he was able to gain majority support outside Birmingham (which Hillary Clinton won) and ran the board with cities Huntsville, Mobile, Montgomery, Tuscaloosa, and Auburn. Bredesen would have to run the board with places like Knoxville, Chattanooga, Clarksville, and Murfreesboro.

In fact, the main reason why Jones won is because Moore was a pedophile. Meanwhile, Blackburn doesn't have that problem.

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Hasn’t Bredesen said during the first senate debate that he opposes Kavanaugh?

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Honestly, there's an upside to Bredesen losing big as it seems he will. It's a great lesson for """MODERATE""" democrats who think they can win by acting like Republicans, that they're gonna pay a price for it. The base will only stick with you up to a point.

They would surely not have won with a Bernie Sanders like candidate either in Tennessee.

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Well, if Blackburn is such a solid bet to win, why is Trump in Tennessee to prop her up?

Trump also went to Michigan, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, and Mississippi. Does that mean those races are competitive?

From what I can tell, Trump is going practically everywhere. He's going to be wasting his time a day before the election propping up Jim Renacci, lol.

Trump hasn't been to those states in weeks.

Trump hasn’t been in New Jersey for weeks and yet it is still competitive.

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