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« on: September 03, 2012, 05:36:39 PM »

Like Redalgo, I do not find it ethical to give the President a blank check to declare war on other nations.  For one thing, this resolutions contains no expiration date, so it is my understanding that this would give any president -- irrespective of who is in office and when -- the power to initiate force against Iran whenever he feels like it.  Not only is this irresponsible, but it spreads a message of "peace through fear" rather than "peace through strength," an act of which I do not believe will be seen in positive light by the international community.  I say we ought to continue our peace talks with Iran now -- not undermine these talks by putting them on our radar screen.
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, 02:18:32 PM »
« Edited: September 04, 2012, 02:20:04 PM by Senator Scott »

Like Redalgo, I do not find it ethical to give the President a blank check to declare war on other nations.  For one thing, this resolutions contains no expiration date, so it is my understanding that this would give any president -- irrespective of who is in office and when -- the power to initiate force against Iran whenever he feels like it.  Not only is this irresponsible, but it spreads a message of "peace through fear" rather than "peace through strength," an act of which I do not believe will be seen in positive light by the international community.  I say we ought to continue our peace talks with Iran now -- not undermine these talks by putting them on our radar screen.
Let's talk about acts being seen in a positive light by the international community... those were sanctions which united most of the West in opposition to Iran's nuclear program. Those sanctions failed- there is no arguing this point. Iran has nuclear weapons, has tested them, along with the other hostile actions mentioned in my resolution.... peace thru strength and world unity has failed and it is time to inform Iran on behalf of ourselves and all peace loving nations that we are prepared to respond with force if they continue to ignore the world community

I don't see how Iran is going to want to make peace with the Republic of Atlasia if it knows our government is writing plans for a potential invasion.  These are the kinds of militaristic attitudes that, as I have read, pushed Europe down the path to World War I.  Iran already has to worry about a possible military surge from Israel, and I fear that passing this resolution will only increase tensions and make Iran more likely to declare war -- not less.

Also, I would like to point out a fairly recent survey from July that showed an overwhelming 69% of Atlasian citizens opposed to military intervention in Iran.  This was, of course, before Vice President Kalwejt made his diplomatic trip to Iran to open up peace talks for the first time.  I will simply not support a military resolution that two-thirds of the public opposes because history has shown us time and time again that unpopular wars do not lead a nation to success, and I simply could not allow the possibility of us engaging in this type of conflict -- even with Ben's amendment added to the text.
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 04:45:10 PM »

It astounds me how any one could read the facts in my resolution- namely the acts of war Iran already commits on a regular basis- and conclude that this resolution makes us the aggressor

Bear in mind that I had no intention, through the use of my words, to contend that the Iranian leaders are perfect or non-aggressive in any perceivable way.  It is simply my belief that drafting resolutions like these when peace -- for the first time ever, is possibly within reach -- could easily disrupt Atlasia's diplomatic tone.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 12:18:57 AM »

NAY.
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