Impeachment Megathread Part 3

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Mitch McConnell brazenly lied under oath today.

In the rest of the country, you get kicked off a jury for doing what he did.  In Clown World, you get reelected for it.

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Mitch McConnell brazenly lied under oath today.

In the rest of the country, you get kicked off a jury for doing what he did.  In Clown World, you get reelected for it.

Why don't we ever use the Second Amendment for what it's intended for?

Shooting Republican leadership - no matter how much they may deserve it - will not be good for the nation or the public.

I'm not shooting anyone, I'm just saying that the Second Amendment was written specifically against politicians who behave like tyrants and engage in such naked corruption.  Not recusing himself or even putting on the pretense of an impartial juror is the most recent item on a long list of ways McConnell has single-handedly, and perhaps irreversibly, usurped longstanding institutions in this country.  This is the exact kind of behavior that you would expect in failed states or dictatorships.

He's not even acting conservative at this point.  It's just reckless extremism and power grabs.  The country would be well better off if he were kicked off his throne one way or another.  You can acknowledge that without endorsing violence.

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Is McConnell even going to have the trial appear to be fair?

The Republican Trump Party is a joke, but not a very funny one; in fact, it's a very dangerous one, one that just may lead to our nation's downfall.

No, but the Republican don't have any good options here.  If Bolton testifies, the cat's out of the bag.  If he doesn't, it's a rigged trial and Democrats get to run with that to November.

Heads, I win.  Tails, you lose.

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Is McConnell even going to have the trial appear to be fair?

The Republican Trump Party is a joke, but not a very funny one; in fact, it's a very dangerous one, one that just may lead to our nation's downfall.

No, but the Republican don't have any good options here.  If Bolton testifies, the cat's out of the bag.  If he doesn't, it's a rigged trial and Democrats get to run with that to November.

Heads, I win.  Tails, you lose.

No one is going to care about Impeachment come November. People will care about the Economy, Health Care and possible Immigration.

In 2013 I remember all the fuss about the Shutdown, ObamaCare, etc. would be a Major Issue for the 2014 Midterms. It didn't turn out that way. Economy still topped Voters minds, followed by ISIS, EBOLA & Immigration.

The President of the United States has been impeached 3 (three) times in the history of the nation.  People are going to remember, and they are going to care.

The economy was fine (well, "fine", as the corporate media has been trying to convince us such since 2011) in 2014, 2016, and 2018.  Voters didn't care and they wanted something new.

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Senate voting on table of Schumer amendment.

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Passes 53-47.

Schumer submitting new amendment to subpoena records from State Department.

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I was worried that a quick acquittal would be a boon for Trump. But a quick trial might be worse politically for Republicans than i thought.

Why?

Because it looks rigged. Poll after poll has shown Americans want a fair trial and a quick one with no evidence or witnesses is obviously not that.

And since Trump isn't getting removed either way, Republicans could have just decided to play fair and let the cards fall where they may.  But they're banking on people forgetting about the impeachment trial (they won't, and Trump himself will be more than happy to keep reminding people about it until November) instead of how much of a sham trial this is shaping to be.

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Would anyone know when the Senate votes on Mulvaney/Bolton subpoenas?

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Gardner, a NO on witnesses.

He knows he's DOA anyway.  Oh well, more DSCC money to spend on other seats...

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Blondie mistakenly thinking this is a trial about Hunter Biden again...

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Dershowitz seriously argued that if the president believes that him staying in power is in the public interest, then he should be allowed to do whatever he thinks is necessary to attain that goal and therefore a quid pro quo is not impeachable.

Can someone please tell me why this clown is so highly respected despite routinely making a fool of himself since the 90's?  Is it just because he successfully defended a man who killed two people or is it something else?

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"The Hill" is reporting that Maryland Senator Chris Van Hollen (D-Md) plans to force a Vote to require Roberts to weigh in on Witnesses & Executive Privilege

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480614-dem-senator-to-force-vote-requiring-roberts-to-weigh-in-on-witnesses

Democrats now trying DESPERATION MOVES! Yikes!

What's desperate is that you would throw yourself and your family in front of an incoming train to protect your God Emperor.

People will remember this cowardice in November.

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Doucheowitz compares Trump's motivations for the quid pro quo to Obama's decision not to bomb Syria.

I'm not sure if he actually believes his own arguments or if you can really be this tediously stupid and become a law professor.

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The whole goal of Alan Dershowitz is and was to make these on the fence sitting Senators comfortable that they don't need more witnesses to hear. He has accomplished that.

No he didn't.

Doucheowitz's arguments today can literally be summarized as "The President is above the law."

Republicans who vote against calling witnesses and are up for election this year will have to face the voters and justify that line of reasoning.

If this is what Republicans are hiding behind this year, all I can say is, "Be my guest."

The fig leaf hasn't fallen, because the fig leaf doesn't even exist.

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Question for 2016:

I would like to invest in philanthropic causes.  Sadly, I cannot do this right now because I don't have enough money.  So I think it would be in the public interest for me to rob a local bank so that I may use the money to build houses for the poor, donate to food banks, invest in cancer research, and do all sorts of things that would be to the benefit of the nation and not to myself in any way.

Don't charge me with anything though because I think one of the bankers there has been bribing government officials to get his son appointed to a high-ranking federal position.  Clearly there is deep-seated corruption afoot and the fact that I currently have a gun pointed at the banker's face is immaterial to what I am doing for the good of the country.

So what do you say?  Shall I loot the place before we investigate this man and his son's shady activities?

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The whole goal of Alan Dershowitz is and was to make these on the fence sitting Senators comfortable that they don't need more witnesses to hear. He has accomplished that.

CNN's Phil Mattingly is reporting that the GOP Senate Caucus is very close locking down these 51 Votes they need for Friday.

Blocking Bolton from testifying is going to end up being a strategic mistake on the Republicans' part.

Bolton's testimony is going to end in the public anyway, whether during the Senate's trial or later when Bolton's book is released. The only change is the timing.

Republicans might as well rip off the bandaid right now, rather than waiting closer to the day of the election.

Furthermore, by blocking Bolton's testimony, Senate Republicans are now (rightfully) opened to the charge that they are covering up for Trump's crimes.

I actually think that Bolton's Testimony carries the same HOAX Christine Blasey Ford did when she accused Judge Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct during his Hearing which turned the Senate into a circus, Democratic Mobs threatening Senators, etc. And guess what nine months later her own Attorneys admitted that her testimony was purely done for Political Reasons because she was concerned about Roe v Wade.

Here we have the same thing: Bolton just wanted to put up dirt on Donald because he fired him. And I wouldn't be surprised if in the summer or during the fall word comes out it was done politically.

And as I said earlier: It won't end up just with Bolton. Democrats would demand Mulvaney, Blair among others because what Bolton said wouldn't be sufficient to them. That's how these folks like Nadler & Schiff usually operate.

I am really surprised that Sanders, Warren, Klobuchar, want more witnesses because in the look run it would hurt them politically while Biden, Buttigieg would be campaigning in Super Tuesday States they would need to sit in the Senate because of the Trail.

So are you still denying the fact that Trump withheld aids to force Zelensky to announce an investigation into the Bidens?

No, I am not denying that. It may have indeed happened but I think it isn't impeachable. If we really put the bar that low every future President is going to be impeached. Do you really want that? Do you want Impeachment to be used as a weapon for every future President by either Political Party? I don't. It's too dangerous! You can bet if Biden is President and Republicans managed to win the House let's say in 2022 Joe could very well face Impeachment Charges because Republicans would want to demand payback because of what happened with Trump. That's why it needs to be ended as soon as possible.

Does this mean I can rob the bank?  I mean if you set the bar for committing crimes that low then every person is going to prison.

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Murkowski will "reflect on her notes" and decide which way to vote soon.  Alexander to announce his decision soon.

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Collins is a YES.

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Game Over. Thanks for Playing.

You'll regret this in November.

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Romney voting yes, BITCHES

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Quite a gamble the GOP is taking. The vast majority of Americans support witnesses and this will surely fire up liberals. It also hands a huge narrative victory to the Democrats.

Heads I win, tails you lose.  The Democrats win the narrative victory whether the mustache speaks or not.

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Report my posts all you want.  It doesn't change a goddamn thing.

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This is all really a good example of one way the federal government is broken. There is no effective way to hold a wayward presidential accountable. At best, you can deny them major legislative accomplishments, but even that has limits, given the power of the executive branch. If they want to engage in flagrant corruption, there is little anyone can do about it, no matter how brazen it is. The fact is, politicians care more about their jobs and will fall in line if the party base backs the president, and they are the easiest group of people of all for the president to con.

Whole system needs to be burned down and redone, imo

Its not the system's problem at all its polarization , as When a President has an approval rating of 40%+ its gonna be impossible to remove them from office.

Nixon's on the other hand's approvals were in the mid 20s when he was forced to resign(and if he didnt resign it may have been in the teens by the time of the trial).

Trump's acquittal was a foregone conclusion.  75% of Americans support calling witnesses.

There is literally no reason, political or moral, for Republicans to block witnesses, and they're doing it anyway.  That is not even a pretense of a fair trial.

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Hopefully now with Lamar finally deciding to show some backbone this sham show trial will end and the President can be left alone to run the country and continue to deal with the key issue of immigration.

Maybe Trump should have used his political capital to deal with that issue after he was inaugurated, instead of spend all of it on trying to repeal Obamacare with a bill that was unpopular with Republican Voters as well.


 

He has reduced migration though to 700,000 in 2017-18 from 1 million in 2016-17 and even further to 600,000 in 2018-19, look at the cuts to the refugee program, the reduction in migration has helped constrict the labour supply and push up wages for less skilled workers.

Where is the wall like he promised, where is solving the problem of illegal immgration like he promised. Oh right he did nothing on it because he is more interested in using it as a wedge issue politically rather than actually doing anything on those issues

People voted for Trump to cut immigration, the wall etc was about symbolism and what it represented, immigration has fallen under Trump, that’s why people voted for him.

And yet, strangely, immigration has actually increased under Trump and Obama deported more people!

Hopefully now with Lamar finally deciding to show some backbone this sham show trial will end and the President can be left alone to run the country and continue to deal with the key issue of immigration.

Maybe Trump should have used his political capital to deal with that issue after he was inaugurated, instead of spend all of it on trying to repeal Obamacare with a bill that was unpopular with Republican Voters as well.


 

He has reduced migration though to 700,000 in 2017-18 from 1 million in 2016-17 and even further to 600,000 in 2018-19, look at the cuts to the refugee program, the reduction in migration has helped constrict the labour supply and push up wages for less skilled workers.

President Obama did Immigration vs his Pen bypassing Congress entirely which was the most dangerous thing EVER.

I'm not a partisan hack like many people think. I definitly would support People like Nikki Haley or Marco Rubio in 2024.

If Trump gets defeated this year Haley will probably the shining light Republicans will look up to and she can unite the Republican Party.

I just want completely undo all the things that a certain Barack Hussein Obama did. He enacted the most dangerous Legislations EVER in this Country like ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank, etc.

I like how you say you aren’t and partisan hack and proceed to say you’ll vote republican in 2024 and that you support Trump destroying our democratic norm because you want to see democratic legislation overturned 🙄

Democratic Legislation? None of Obamas Major Legislations were Bipartisan.

The Stimulus Bill had the entire GOP House voting against it. Only 3 GOP Senators joined Democrats (Collins, Snowe, Specter)
The initial ACA was passed with 60 Democratic Senators and not a single GOP Senator or GOP House Member voted for it.

Dodd-Frank was passed on Party Lines.

So don't give me that his Legislation was Democratic.

Obamacare is literally a Heritage Foundation policy, dude.

But that doesn't matter, because Republicans' priority was to make Obama a one-term president from the day he was inaugurated.  They wanted him to fail.  Rush Limbaugh said as much, and Glenn Beck almost single-handedly transformed the GOP into a party of bumbling conspiracy theorists.  Republicans were uniformly opposed to Obama's proposals while Pelosi and Reid had to drag moderate Democrat cowards kicking and screaming every time they tried to get something passed.

The Republican Party isn't even conservative anymore, it's just obnoxiously contrarian and short-sighted.  Sure, you guys have the power now.  It's come at a great cost.

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But that doesn't matter, because Republicans' priority was to make Obama a one-term president from the day he was inaugurated.  They wanted him to fail.  Rush Limbaugh said as much, and Glenn Beck almost single-handedly transformed the GOP into a party of bumbling conspiracy theorists.  Republicans were uniformly opposed to Obama's proposals while Pelosi and Reid had to drag moderate Democrat cowards kicking and screaming every time they tried to get something passed.

Many Democrats have opposed President Trump since day one, and want him to be a less-than-one-term president from the day he was inaugurated. They wanted him to fail. Rachel Maddow and MSNBC has transformed the Democratic party into a party of bumbling consipiracy theorists. Democrats were uniformly opposed to Trump's proposals, while Ryan and McConnell had to drag Republicans kicking and screaming every time they tried to get something passed.

And you know who else had a "priority" to make the incumbent President into a one-termer? Democrats who opposed G W Bush, G H W Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Dwight Eisenhower - and every other Republican President back to Abraham Lincoln.

And Republicans who opposed Barrack Obama, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Lyndon Johnson, John F. Kennedy, Harry Truman, FDR... and every other Democratic President back to the start of the party.

Why? Because the job of the opposition is to oppose.

What goes around comes around, pal.  But you know what?  The Democrats could have impeached Bush and Cheney and they didn't, after their last president was impeached for a blowjob.  They had their chance at retribution and forfeited.

But no, the opposition's job was not always solely to oppose.  Republicans didn't scrap the entire New Deal when Truman left office.  The Democratic House passed Reagan's tax cuts.  Bush Sr. signed the ADA.  Hell, a Democratic Senate confirmed the most conservative sitting member of the Supreme Court.

McConnell refused to hold hearings for any Obama Supreme Court nominee.  Now no president's Supreme Court nominee will be given the courtesy of a hearing unless their party controls the Senate.  You guys traded the integrity of one-third of the federal government for a short-term power grab.

An attorney for the President is now arguing that a quid pro quo is justified if the President thinks that staying in power is in the "public interest."  Now the real scandal isn't some phone call that Trump had with a foreign leader, it is that we are currently being governed in the same style as a Second or Third World country.

Yet, 40% of the country is going along with it all like lambs to the slaughter.  The Soviets had a special name for people like you: useful idiots.