Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

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Dear God that's even worse than I thought.

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How many people enrolled under Obamacare?  It sounds like this is just getting us back to pre-Obamacare levels.

24 million people losing coverage is a bad thing no matter how you spin it. Obamacare should be made better and amended, not destroyed.

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"Nobody will be worse off"-Tom Price
"Nobody's going to be dying on the street if I'm President."-Donald Trump
"We're going to have insurance for everybody."-Donald Trump
"will broaden healthcare access, make healthcare more affordable and improve the quality of  care available to all Americans."-Trump 2016 website on Trump's healthcare plan
"You're going to have plans that are so good.."-Donald Trump at the first debate
"I was the first&only GOP candidate to state there would be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid."-2015 Trump tweet
Trump broke his promises. We must break him.

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How many people enrolled under Obamacare?  It sounds like this is just getting us back to pre-Obamacare levels.

24 million people losing coverage is a bad thing no matter how you spin it. Obamacare should be made better and amended, not destroyed.

By "better" do you mean by raising the upper middle class's taxes more? 

We could probably get every single person in the U.S. on by simply raising taxes.  The Fed. Gov. has to make tough choices and balance everyone's interests.  Doctor's don't work for free so we simply need to find a reasonable balance.

By better I mean not stripping millions of their coverage. The AHCA is class warfare, a brutal attack on the poor, old and sick, who could lose coverage or have their premiums go up by 750%, and a giveaway to the young, rich and healthy who do not need help. Why are you even a Democrat if you support such an awful plan?

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If only McGinty or Feingold had won.

Bernie would have coattailed McGinty to victory. Sestak probably would have won in spite of Hillary. But the establishment got their way in both primaries, and that could make the difference in whether ObamaCare survives.

lol

This makes zero sense, Bernie lost the PA primary to Hillary by 12 points.

Irrelevant he would have done better in rural areas compared to Clinton though his Sestak comment is much more accurate

And he would have done worse in the suburbs and the cities then Clinton.

There is no evidence of Bernie winning PA, now if you want to argue MI....go ahead.

Bernie did better with the WWC than Hillary, a key demographic in Pennsylvania, and she maxed out in Philadelphia and still lost a state that Obama won by 6%. Plus if Bernie won nationally(in the EC too), as early polls showed him doing and with a better margin than Clinton, he'd likely win Pennsylvania.

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The only bright side to Trump's handling of healthcare is that it is political suicide for himself and the GOP.

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Meadows said house will have pass the bill if the senate does so this is it

Meadows may be able to speak for some House members, but not many of the critical ones, such as the Republicans from New York and California who have their states' health care funding cut massively in this bill.

If Senate moderates fold then House moderates-who have already been proved to be more malleable-will easily flip.

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You may be confused with the 'Cornhusker Kickback' that the got Ben Nelson to vote for it(and that Kickback didn't end up in the final bill anyway)

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Hoping next year turns into a tax reform/ACA repeal failure, would be awesome to super depress turnout for Republicans due to the ineptitude.

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Ha ha ha.