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Erich Maria Remarque
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« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2016, 02:41:18 PM »

If Slate is right early returns look bad for Trump. Not feeling great looking at them right now.

Yep. In fact, it more or less look like 538, but FL is "gone" for now.

So Trump might just hope on polling error/Shy Trumpistas, otherwise he's done Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: November 08, 2016, 03:00:31 PM »


Great results from this new, innovative election reporting tool!

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« Reply #52 on: November 08, 2016, 03:05:01 PM »

According to the polls Trump should be doing much stronger on ED.

Right now according to the model: EV ~= ED


So either polls are wrong, current turnout is D-friendly so far or the model is wrong Tongue
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« Reply #53 on: November 08, 2016, 03:20:33 PM »

And the bad news for Trump keeps coming:

Update: 3:06 p.m.: The state maps previously displayed on this page represented only Election Day data but not early vote estimates. They have been removed and will be reposted when they are updated.



Why it is a bad news? It is good, if the polls were right.
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« Reply #54 on: November 08, 2016, 03:22:37 PM »

Well a lot of Republicans vote after 5 or 6 when they come home from work. But also young people vote later in the day. So hard to say what's going on (even assuming this isn't junk).

Is there any data about voters pattern i.e. what time od day R vs D usually vote?
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« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2016, 03:29:01 PM »

Because the election day vote will be much more conservative than the early votes.

Yeah. So why is this bad?

Because they were modeling the early vote to look like the election day vote. Come on, seriously, you can be this dense.
Sorry, misread it. I thought they had only EV on maps, not ED Embarrassed

But the numbers are still right?
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« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2016, 03:30:53 PM »

Well a lot of Republicans vote after 5 or 6 when they come home from work. But also young people vote later in the day. So hard to say what's going on (even assuming this isn't junk).

Is there any data about voters pattern i.e. what time od day R vs D usually vote?

Lief is trolling. It's the other way around. The Democrats do best with late-in-the-day voters, Republicans do best with midday and morning voters. Obviously there are exceptions in certain areas based on demographics, but this is the overall pattern. The effect is not huge but it is noticeable.

Haha, ok. I didn't know. It is so strange that you in USA vote on workday Huh
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« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2016, 03:39:09 PM »


At this point it's fair to say that this model is quite bearish on Clinton in NV, and quite bullish in FL. Again, this all needs to be taken with huge grains of salt and skepticism.

It is pretty strange. I though that NV Hispanics would be underestimated much more than in FL. But so far it is other way around...
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« Reply #58 on: November 08, 2016, 03:43:03 PM »


At this point it's fair to say that this model is quite bearish on Clinton in NV, and quite bullish in FL. Again, this all needs to be taken with huge grains of salt and skepticism.

It is pretty strange. I though that NV Hispanics would be underestimated much more than in FL. But so far it is other way around...
Remember, the model takes polls into account with their estimates.

I know, but I assumed that since they used voter file, they'd get much better result in reaching all groups. If they are really from Obama team.
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« Reply #59 on: November 08, 2016, 03:52:16 PM »

Wait, I thought they said it was similar to Obama's data operation, not his actual model.

I didn't say it. Just that some of them were from Obama's team.
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« Reply #60 on: November 08, 2016, 03:56:35 PM »

              Clinton's lead in thousands    Obama's lead      ~% counted (deleted)
Florida       +278                                +84                            Huh                    
Iowa          +19                                  +92                            Huh                                
Newada      +7                                    +68                            Huh                                
NH             +16                                  +39                            Huh
Ohio           +29                                  +166                          Huh
PA              +103                                +309                           Huh
Wi              +149                                 +213                          Huh
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« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2016, 03:57:56 PM »

Well, it'll still be just a poll. The first real numbers come after 6 PM.
Exactly!
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« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2016, 04:14:24 PM »

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« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2016, 04:23:27 PM »

With these numbers (which I do not particularly believe), Trump will plateau at about 220-230 EV.  And that is assuming he takes OH, IA, AZ, GA, UT....
On the other hand, if you assume 3% error, it might be todo o nada for Trump Tongue
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