2016 Democratic Candidates Survivor: Tim Kaine is Survivor!

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Eliminate:

King Angus I
Evan Byah

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Eliminate Byah

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3 Hillary Clinton
2 Mike Beebe
1 Mark Warner

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Eliminate:
Cuomo
Beebe

Save:
Joe Biden

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Eliminate:
Joe Biden
Deval Patrick

Save:
Mike Beebe

Shame on you Tmth, don't you know that Joe Biden is the RL John Engle?

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2 Mark Warner
-1 Mike Beebe

Either way a conserva-Dem is hurt by the twist.

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10 Mike Beebe

Honestly though, I'm anyone but Cuomo.

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5 Cuomo - come on get him out. now!

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Eliminate Beebe

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Eliminate Beebe

He is already eliminated.

Dunno why you guys dont like Gilibrand, she is one of the last first tier candidates left. Its time to purge this survivor of the remaining light weights

My choice is Tim Kaine, not a strong, interesting or charismsmatic candidate in any way.

O'Malley is a first-tier candidate, Gillibrand not so much.  If Tmth will let me vote for someone who isn't yet eliminated, I change my vote to Gregoire.  If you want to eliminate a lightweight...

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Eliminate Beebe

He is already eliminated.

Dunno why you guys dont like Gilibrand, she is one of the last first tier candidates left. Its time to purge this survivor of the remaining lightweights

My choice is Tim Kaine, not a strong, interesting or charismsmatic candidate in any way.

O'Malley is a first-tier candidate, Gillibrand not so much.  If Tmth will let me vote for someone who isn't yet eliminated, I change my vote to Gregoire.  If you want to eliminate a lightweight...

If you consider Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Schweitzer, Warner and O'Malley as first tier, Gillibrand is at least the most prominent of the rest. So her and O'Malley are the two most prominent left. I thought people where going for a duel between them after killing the top names.
It will be interesting to see how this goes, probably the mayor of Newark as survivor...

I don't consider Warner or Biden top-tier, but Clinton, Cuomo, maybe Schweitzer, and O'Malley are.  O'Malley is the only heavyweight left and Booker is pretty well liked by Democrats (and African-American).  People were killing off top names because the Republican posters made a concentrated effort to eliminate everyone who is popular with forum Democrats (that's why they wanted to save Cuomo, because he's pretty hated by forum Democrats, also they are trying to eliminate all women and minorities as a joke).

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Eliminate Beebe

He is already eliminated.

Dunno why you guys don't like Gillibrand, she is one of the last first tier candidates left. Its time to purge this survivor of the remaining lightweights

My choice is Tim Kaine, not a strong, interesting or charismsmatic candidate in any way.

O'Malley is a first-tier candidate, Gillibrand not so much.  If Tmth will let me vote for someone who isn't yet eliminated, I change my vote to Gregoire.  If you want to eliminate a lightweight...

If you consider Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Schweitzer, Warner and O'Malley as first tier, Gillibrand is at least the most prominent of the rest. So her and O'Malley are the two most prominent left. I thought people where going for a duel between them after killing the top names.
It will be interesting to see how this goes, probably the mayor of Newark as survivor...

I don't consider Warner or Biden top-tier, but Clinton, Cuomo, maybe Schweitzer, and O'Malley are.  O'Malley is the only heavyweight left and Booker is pretty well liked by Democrats (and African-American).  People were killing off top names because the Republican posters made a concentrated effort to eliminate everyone who is popular with forum Democrats (that's why they wanted to save Cuomo, because he's pretty hated by forum Democrats, also they are trying to eliminate all women and minorities as a joke).

As the current VP Biden is top tier per definition and Schweitzer is the most likely progressive (or even slightly progressive) contender IMO. So I would definitely consider him top tier. I personally doubt that a guy as boring and uncharismatic as O'Malley could win the nomination.

Yeah, I know Booker is popular, but he is a guy for the future, whereas I could see Gillibrand as a VP on the 2016 ticket.
 
I saw the pattern with Dem darling elimination, but I thought we were going to play seriously in the final, keeping at least a couple of good candidates alive. So I was surprised they went after Gillibrand.

Biden may be Vice-President, but he's still not a serious candidate if he runs.  I think he's been a good Vice-President, I think he's a likable straight-shooter, but he's not going anywhere if he runs.  His problem is that he is too much of a straight-shooter, he says whatever is on his mind   Plus he's 70.

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Eliminate Beebe

He is already eliminated.

Dunno why you guys don't like Gillibrand, she is one of the last first tier candidates left. Its time to purge this survivor of the remaining lightweights

My choice is Tim Kaine, not a strong, interesting or charismsmatic candidate in any way.

O'Malley is a first-tier candidate, Gillibrand not so much.  If Tmth will let me vote for someone who isn't yet eliminated, I change my vote to Gregoire.  If you want to eliminate a lightweight...

If you consider Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Schweitzer, Warner and O'Malley as first tier, Gillibrand is at least the most prominent of the rest. So her and O'Malley are the two most prominent left. I thought people where going for a duel between them after killing the top names.
It will be interesting to see how this goes, probably the mayor of Newark as survivor...

I don't consider Warner or Biden top-tier, but Clinton, Cuomo, maybe Schweitzer, and O'Malley are.  O'Malley is the only heavyweight left and Booker is pretty well liked by Democrats (and African-American).  People were killing off top names because the Republican posters made a concentrated effort to eliminate everyone who is popular with forum Democrats (that's why they wanted to save Cuomo, because he's pretty hated by forum Democrats, also they are trying to eliminate all women and minorities as a joke).

As the current VP Biden is top tier per definition and Schweitzer is the most likely progressive (or even slightly progressive) contender IMO. So I would definitely consider him top tier. I personally doubt that a guy as boring and uncharismatic as O'Malley could win the nomination.

Yeah, I know Booker is popular, but he is a guy for the future, whereas I could see Gillibrand as a VP on the 2016 ticket.
 
I saw the pattern with Dem darling elimination, but I thought we were going to play seriously in the final, keeping at least a couple of good candidates alive. So I was surprised they went after Gillibrand.

Biden may be Vice-President, but he's still not a serious candidate if he runs.  I think he's been a good Vice-President, I think he's a likable straight-shooter, but he's not going anywhere if he runs.  His problem is that he is too much of a straight-shooter, he says whatever is on his mind   Plus he's 70.

Valid and well known points, but Ill still consider him a top tier candidate. At 74 he is not much older than Dole and McCain and only slightly older than Reagan in 1984.
A Biden run can be seen as a continuation of the Obama presidency, kinda finishing the job. I am sure Obama would campaign for him. He is not the favourite, but he is in top 3.

I'd bet Obama would remain neutral in the primaries (he sort of has to).  Also, from what I've read, Biden and Obama don't get along very well.  Biden resents Obama's staff trying to muzzle him and Obama apparently gets extremely irritated by Biden's gaffes.

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Eliminate Beebe

He is already eliminated.

Dunno why you guys dont like Gilibrand, she is one of the last first tier candidates left. Its time to purge this survivor of the remaining lightweights

My choice is Tim Kaine, not a strong, interesting or charismsmatic candidate in any way.

O'Malley is a first-tier candidate, Gillibrand not so much.  If Tmth will let me vote for someone who isn't yet eliminated, I change my vote to Gregoire.  If you want to eliminate a lightweight...

If you consider Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Schweitzer, Warner and O'Malley as first tier, Gillibrand is at least the most prominent of the rest. So her and O'Malley are the two most prominent left. I thought people where going for a duel between them after killing the top names.
It will be interesting to see how this goes, probably the mayor of Newark as survivor...

I don't consider Warner or Biden top-tier, but Clinton, Cuomo, maybe Schweitzer, and O'Malley are.  O'Malley is the only heavyweight left and Booker is pretty well liked by Democrats (and African-American).  People were killing off top names because the Republican posters made a concentrated effort to eliminate everyone who is popular with forum Democrats (that's why they wanted to save Cuomo, because he's pretty hated by forum Democrats, also they are trying to eliminate all women and minorities as a joke).

Cory Booker as a presidential candidate when he's only a mayor is a joke too.  I feel like posting that old Humphrey ad from '68 with the guy laughing at Agnew.

He's more likely than Gillibrand, I'm not saying that he's likely.  2020 or 2024 on the other hand...

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Nixon now and Markell next!

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Markell

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- 20 for Booker

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Eliminate Citizen Kaine

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Eliminate Sebelious

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Well, with Gillibrand out where is no good options left, but at least Sebelius would be a competent president and since you guys dont wanna eliminate Kaine I am gonna try to get her in the final.

Eliminate John Hickenlooper

It has nothing to do with wanting or not wanting to eliminate Kaine or Sebelius.  I maintain that this survivor was designed to cause serious potential candidates/contenders who forum Democrats like to be eliminated as early as possible (or at least that's how many have been playing it).  The goal being to make a boring, moderate-hero/conservative, uninspiring, and/or generally unpopular contender win.  How else does one explain the inclusion of such individuals as Jay Nixon, Jack Markell, Mike Beebe, Christine Gregoire, Kathleen Sebelius, Tim Kaine (who has even said he plans to stay in the Senate for the next few decades IIRC), etc.  Honestly, its pretty shocking that Hickenlooper is even still in this, but that seems like an oversight by certain regulars.  Heck, one could argue that the secret rule round was to keep Schweitzer from winning.  I'm not saying it isn't okay that it is being run this way (it is Tmthforu94's survivor and he's not making me play or anything), I just want to make sure that you understand what's going on here.  Lastly, I have to ask, what makes you think Gillibrand would be such an amazing candidate?  I'm genuinely curious, as you seem to be pretty adamant about this.

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I can say with absolute certainty that my secret move was not made specifically to get Schweitzer eliminated, as I like him myself.

Fair enough, sorry if that wasn't the case.

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Well, with Gillibrand out where is no good options left, but at least Sebelius would be a competent president and since you guys dont wanna eliminate Kaine I am gonna try to get her in the final.

Eliminate John Hickenlooper

It has nothing to do with wanting or not wanting to eliminate Kaine or Sebelius.  I maintain that this survivor was designed to cause serious potential candidates/contenders who forum Democrats like to be eliminated as early as possible (or at least that's how many have been playing it).  The goal being to make a boring, moderate-hero/conservative, uninspiring, and/or generally unpopular contender win.  How else does one explain the inclusion of such individuals as Jay Nixon, Jack Markell, Mike Beebe, Christine Gregoire, Kathleen Sebelius, Tim Kaine (who has even said he plans to stay in the Senate for the next few decades IIRC), etc.  Honestly, its pretty shocking that Hickenlooper is even still in this, but that seems like an oversight by certain regulars.  Heck, one could argue that the secret rule round was to keep Schweitzer from winning.  I'm not saying it isn't okay that it is being run this way (it is Tmthforu94's survivor and he's not making me play or anything), I just want to make sure that you understand what's going on here.  Lastly, I have to ask, what makes you think Gillibrand would be such an amazing candidate?  I'm genuinely curious, as you seem to be pretty adamant about this.

I get it. No need to lecture me. I was just expecting one more try to get Kaine out, since he IMO is a less competent and less interesting candidate than Sebelius.
Gillibrand is not amazing, but she is the best of what was left after Schweitzer was eliminated.

Sorry if it came across that way, I really didn't mean to lecture or anything

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Star Trek: The Wrath of Kaine