Trump Jr./Russian lawyer meeting: Jr. knew info was part of Russian Gov effort

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Mods, can we please use this thread as a dumping ground for EnglishPete's attempts to derail threads?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

@ProudModerate2

I think that probably the only point in responding to EnglishPete is to offer a counterpoint to his absurdity (if that is even needed) for other users to see. But anyone thinking they will ever change his mind about anything would be making a tragic mistake. At best, he's just a guy who has already formed his opinion about Trump before anything ever happened, and he enters into every discussion with the assumption that whatever happened is either fake, a conspiracy against Trump, misunderstood and actually completely innocent, or even more, nothing to be alarmed about because both sides do it (or something like that). At worst, he's a troll trying to rile people up by playing the role of the ironclad supporter in the mold of Jeffrey Lord. I wouldn't necessarily fault people for that, I mean what can you realistically expect if you're constantly posting links to random right-wing blogs and acting as if they are proof, or have "interesting theories." All it proves is that Pete will believe anything anyone writes on a blog/news site so long as it aligns with his beliefs, which I must say is pretty ironic given how obsessed with calling out the fake news mainstream media Pete is.


Anyway, this thread is all but dead. The only purpose it serves now is for EnglishPete to rant about conspiracies and for people to argue with him, with some posts here and there about actual Trump/Don Jr scandal stuff. That is basically the future of all Atlas Russia threads now. They will get some interest for a time, but Pete will quickly become engrossed with it, driving it into the ground with his mindless blather as he fires off countless posts on every page.

Can we just quarantine EnglishPete's Trump-Russia posts to one megathread?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

@ProudModerate2

I think that probably the only point in responding to EnglishPete is to offer a counterpoint to his absurdity (if that is even needed) for other users to see. But anyone thinking they will ever change his mind about anything would be making a tragic mistake. At best, he's just a guy who has already formed his opinion about Trump before anything ever happened, and he enters into every discussion with the assumption that whatever happened is either fake, a conspiracy against Trump, misunderstood and actually completely innocent, or even more, nothing to be alarmed about because both sides do it (or something like that). At worst, he's a troll trying to rile people up by playing the role of the ironclad supporter in the mold of Jeffrey Lord. I wouldn't necessarily fault people for that, I mean what can you realistically expect if you're constantly posting links to random right-wing blogs and acting as if they are proof, or have "interesting theories." All it proves is that Pete will believe anything anyone writes on a blog/news site so long as it aligns with his beliefs, which I must say is pretty ironic given how obsessed with calling out the fake news mainstream media Pete is.


Anyway, this thread is all but dead. The only purpose it serves now is for EnglishPete to rant about conspiracies and for people to argue with him, with some posts here and there about actual Trump/Don Jr scandal stuff. That is basically the future of all Atlas Russia threads now. They will get some interest for a time, but Pete will quickly become engrossed with it, driving it into the ground with his mindless blather as he fires off countless posts on every page.

Can we just quarantine EnglishPete's Trump-Russia posts to one megathread?

We need to quarantine ProudModerate2's crappy little 3-line hit and run posts too.

Fine by me

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Breaking: Trump Jr. and Manafort will testify publicly before the Senate Judiciary panel next Wednesday.

According to the NYT, Manafort was in debt to pro-Russia interests for as much as $17 million before he joined the Trump campaign.  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/us/politics/paul-manafort-russia-trump.html

Wow !!
This is some serious s**t !
With that much money owed to the Russians, he could have easily been "influenced" by the Russkie Government.
Someone please post Nuclear Elmo.

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You got it, boss

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Manafort has been subpoenaed by Senate Judiciary for a public hearing on Wednesday.

https://twitter.com/braddjaffy/status/889845264458162176

I wonder why they're subpoenaing him and not Trump Jr.  That's...interesting.