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No War, but the War on Christmas
iBizzBee
Junior Chimp
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« on: February 14, 2019, 10:38:42 PM »

Unlike Republicans, Democrats actually have room for disagreement and debate as a “Big Tent” party so to speak. Yes, we should have core values (Respect for diversity, civil rights, universal health care, sensible gun laws) — and those values should be a requirement for being a Democrat, but the implementation and how to best effect those things is being hotly debated by many factions and voices in the Democratic Party right now, and I think we’ll emerge stronger for it.
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No War, but the War on Christmas
iBizzBee
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2019, 11:07:05 PM »

The corporate Democrats are losing a lot of ground to the progressive wave. They're being exposed as Corporate Republican-Lite at the same time that voters are adopting progressive or semi-progressive agendas. The fact that AOC isn't old enough to run for president (and become the frontrunner) is contributing to Pelosi-crats still holding onto power, albeit with a weaker and weaker grip.

Even as a huge fan of AOC, she doesn’t need to be president for at least another decade or two.
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No War, but the War on Christmas
iBizzBee
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2019, 11:44:01 PM »

The corporate Democrats are losing a lot of ground to the progressive wave. They're being exposed as Corporate Republican-Lite at the same time that voters are adopting progressive or semi-progressive agendas. The fact that AOC isn't old enough to run for president (and become the frontrunner) is contributing to Pelosi-crats still holding onto power, albeit with a weaker and weaker grip.

Even as a huge fan of AOC, she doesn’t need to be president for at least another decade or two.
Ideally yes, I agree.

I'm just passionate about (North) Americans discovering and embracing progressivism, people waking up to the disgusting state of corporatism, and progressivism gaining true power and influence in our society. If that means Ocasio-Cortez becomes president a little too young, but the country experiences some sort of cultural awakening and progressive revolution, I'm willing to accept that she might make a few mistakes here and there due to lack of experience and wisdom.

It's the price I'm willing to pay. Bernie in this election is a better choice, but I'm not sure he can grow the movement further as much as AOC can.

I love AOC and her policies, and I generally agree with you — but I fear someone as inexperienced as AOC could actually set our cause back significantly if she were elevated to such a high position so quickly. Of course we both know this isn’t going to happen, but AOC for Senate if Schumer resigns and then maybe AOC 2028 or 2032? Definitely, she’s the face of the (growing and inevitable) millennial revolution in our party.
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