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JA
Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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« on: October 18, 2017, 07:35:46 PM »

Where did this idea come from that Bernie wants democrats to 'give up' on civil rights?

If they acknowledged that Bernie was being arrested standing up for Civil Rights and marching with African American protesters in the '60s while Hillary was still a "Goldwater Girl," they wouldn't have anything left to disagree with him on. Then they'd have to admit the real problem here is that they simply don't agree with Left-wing economics or even the foundation of the Left, which is the defense of the rights and interests of all the underprivileged, which begins with class analysis and the class struggle, and are nothing more than displaced Rockefeller Republicans alienated from the GOP by its anti-elitism. They go wherever they think their technocratic, managerial identity is most dominant and respected; the Democratic Party is nothing more than a vehicle for the maintenance of their power following Nixon and Reagan's purging of them from the Republican Party. These latte liberals are often the same ones gentrifying urban neighborhoods, displacing the working and lower classes they claim to champion; they're the same ones living in bourgeois neighborhoods safe from the negative effects their policies create, like the poverty and crime resulting from rampant inequality, the increasing harassment and police violence against minorities because White liberals want to feel safe in their hip new condos built over the former homes of the poor families they priced out of the area, and the degraded conditions of schools, rural communities, and "uncool" cities left to rot, while they preach the right-wing mantra of personal responsibility and shaming people for being poor.

Then, they join the Clinton cult, conveniently ignoring her not-so-distant history of racist dogwhistle politics, like she used in her 2008 campaign against Obama.

  • The Drudge Report claimed the infamous photo of Obama in Somali garb was passed on by a Clinton staffer. The head of Clinton's campaign even said, “If Barack Obama’s campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed.”
  • Hillary Clinton suggested that White voters were more important when she said that Obama's support among "working, hard-working Americans, White Americans" was weakening and "how Whites in both states who had not completed college" supported her.
  • Clinton's criticism of Obama over Reverand Jeremiah Wright, which the right-wing quickly co-opted.
  • Clinton's continuous demands that Obama "denounce" and "reject" Louis Farrakhan's endorsement.
  • Clinton's doe-eyed statement that there was nothing to suggest Obama was a Muslim, "as far as I know."
  • Clinton suggested to reporters that McCain was more qualified for President than Obama in March '08 because he would bring "his lifetime of experience" while Obama would "put forth a speech he made in 2002."
  • The Clinton campaign pushed the story of Obama's connection to Weather Underground in February '08, before the McCain campaign tried it, and even said, "wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue."
  • Clinton repeatedly cited the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy as a reason to remain in the race despite falling far behind, which implied there was still time for Obama to be assassinated before the primaries ended.
  • 15% of Clinton supporters switched over to vote for McCain against Obama in 2008, while 12% of Sanders supporters voted for Trump.
  • Hillary promoted her husband's 1994 Crime Bill by saying of African American children, "they are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called 'super-predators.' No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel."
  • Hillary ardently supported and characterized her husband's welfare reform that eliminated Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) as late as 2008 as a success, which imposed a 5-year lifetime limit on welfare assistance and barred undocumented immigrants from licensed professions, among other things.
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JA
Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 08:01:00 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2017, 08:03:51 PM by Jacobin American »

Two things:

1. Left wing economics won't pull minorities out of poverty. It'll just push everyone else into poverty.

I really can't comprehend how we're supposed to be part of the same political party, honestly.

PS. Also, thanks for essentially proving the point of my other post.
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Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 08:23:13 PM »

Apparently wanting to go back to New Deal era democrats is socialist.

Exactly. I'm not saying you have to be a Socialist, but New Deal Democratic politics was considerably more populist, labor, and working-class oriented. I don't think you'd see a lot of Democrats from that era talking about how Whites without a college education are deplorable, mocking "White trash," and saying how people should just move from their rural hometown or else suffer poverty.
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Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2017, 08:45:05 PM »

Apparently wanting to go back to New Deal era democrats is socialist.

Exactly. I'm not saying you have to be a Socialist, but New Deal Democratic politics was considerably more populist, labor, and working-class oriented. I don't think you'd see a lot of Democrats from that era talking about how Whites without a college education are deplorable, mocking "White trash," and saying how people should just move from their rural hometown or else suffer poverty.

Okay, I think I may have misunderstood what you were saying when you said "left-wing economics". I assumed you were on the European spectrum where Left wing economics ==> socialist.

Personally, I am a Socialist, but I acknowledge that the Democratic Party is not, nor has it ever been, a Socialist political party. However, during its New Deal era it could be more accurately described as Social Democratic since it was willing to nationalize industries, strongly promote union and labor rights causes, and prioritized the poor and working classes. It was also during this time that, when dominated by Union-backed Democratic politicians in the North, great progress was made on Civil Rights. There's absolutely no reason it can't be a working-class oriented, pro-labor, pro-Civil Rights Social Democratic party again.
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